The Alt-Right

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by Jeff Robinson, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

  2. M Testa

    M Testa Well-Known Member

    can anyone recommend books on USA alt.right, Bannon, Breitbart stuff?
  3. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    He got 27% - 57 000 votes btw. About 10 % less than the previous non-nazi republican candidate.
  4. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper Up against the wall motherfucker.

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  5. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    It's the best book yet from our perspective. For a more journalistic mainstream view the book Alt-Right: From 4chan to the White House by Mike Wendling is surprisingly good.
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  6. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Lyons runs Three Way Fight btw - they're currently doing a three piece article on the potential contours of 21st fascism and responses - i've been waiting for the last piece before posting it up, but thus far it's a very interesting and i think spot on argument about modern capital lining up with the liberals against what they can sense is an anti-capitalist populism which they sell as fascism. So again, large parts of the left fall in line with capital again.
  7. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    ...and here's the third part staring with a handy summary:

    In Part 1, Hamerquist discussed transnational capital's need to reestablish mass support in the face of populist challenges on both the left and the right. In Part 2, he criticized the widespread leftist conception that fascism, right-wing populist movements, and capital are all aligned together, arguing instead that fascism is a right-wing revolutionary tendency composed of "an array of emerging reactionary anti-capitalisms." In Part 3, below, Hamerquist argues that transnational capital’s representatives are replacing the old Global War on Terror with a new common threat/common fear scenario, which mis-identifies right-wing populist movements as part of a new “fascist threat” to “democracy," in a bid to renew popular support. Without a decisive anti-capitalist intervention from the left, we are likely to see either transnational capital restabilized, or reformist right-wing populisms transformed into actual fascist movements, posing a serious threat of anti-liberatory "barbarism."
  8. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

  9. marty21

    marty21 One on one? You're crazy.

    Just started reading this - available on Verso for about £2.50:thumbs: enjoying it so far.

    eta - not on verso :oops: it was on Amazon for about £3.30
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  10. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Not to be a pedant but I think it's published by Pluto Press that one, in case anyone is looking
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  11. marty21

    marty21 One on one? You're crazy.

    eta - just checked - I got it on Amazon for about £3 - apols
  12. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    From that link above....
    Not sure thats totally the case. Transnational Capital (if there is one such thing) wet themselves with excitement at the election of Bolsonaro, who is arguable the most openly fascistic of all the new hard right leaders. Their mouthpieces utterly downplayed his fascism (calling him a bit "controversial") and openly and unreservedly welcome the possiblities for capital that his leadership would bring. Trump likewise has on balance made the marketeers happy.

    And is it really a "misidentifying"? Yes theres a needs to be accurate with terminology, but I dont think its an analysis that is utterly missing the point. I may be misunderstanding, but it seems even Hamerquist agrees that right-wing populism is latent anti-liberal fascism as the second part of the summary says (which kind of contradicts the argument that its a delibearate mislabelling).

    Transnational Capital is obviously not going to be calling for "a decisive anti-capitalist intervention from the left", so if voices from within the TC establishment worry about the "threat of anti-liberatory "barbarism" and "actual fascist movements," they are probably correct in so doing.

    Maybe Im missing something though...I found the article too hard to read, but I think that summary was accurate.

    Seems to me Transnational Capital is playing with fire: on the one hand they probably know where it might lead and some may voice some concerns, but they seem to cheerlead the business opporuntities where they exist and those voices seem far louder to me. Im not seeing a fabricated, deliberatly mis-represnted replacement of the War on Terror.

    Maybe Brazil gets a different treatment as its physcially away from the US-Euro zone? Still, they clearly prefer someone of the far-right to the far-left.
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  13. redsquirrel

    redsquirrel This Machine Kills Progressives

    Cheers butchers, three really interesting pieces. Lots to think over.
    Did you just read the third part because the first two parts (especially the second) deal with your points in greater detail?

    What do you mean by the "mouthpieces" of transitional capital? Are you arguing that the mainstream media is sympathetic to populism (either right or left)?

    And I have to say that you've totally mis-read the sentence you've quoted. It certainly does not state (either implicitly or explicitly) that "right-wing populism is latent anti-liberal fascism", note transformed. In fact I think you've misread much of the piece. Finally, what do you mean by this statement "Transnational Capital (if there is one such thing)"? Because I could be wrong but it implies to me that you are using a very different definition of transnational capital to that of Hamerquist.
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  14. Mab

    Mab Kingston ON Canada

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  15. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Yeah only tried to read the third.. Too academic language for me tbh. I'll have a look back over this but I'm on holiday mode for a couple of days still.
  16. redsquirrel

    redsquirrel This Machine Kills Progressives

    I definitely recommend reading all three.
    They are dense pieces though, I think I need to re-read them to really get to grips with all that they say.

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