Unreleased 1963 John Coltrane studio session to be issued

Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by Lurdan, Jun 8, 2018.

  1. Lurdan

    Lurdan old wave

    Well they've kept this one close to their chests. A previously unreleased studio session recorded by the classic quartet for Impulse on the 6th March 1963 is getting a release on June 29th.


    In recent years 'new' Coltrane albums have been repackaged material or live recordings which have generally been in circulation among collectors for years. Only one track from this session ('Vilia') has ever been released, and it includes a couple of previously unknown compositions, as well as studio versions of 'One Up, One Down' previously only known from a Feb 1963 radio broadcast from Birdland. Source is Coltrane's copy of the tapes which he apparently gave to his first wife Naima.

    The official announcement is due later today but looking at some etailer sites which have already posted details it looks like there will be both single CD and vinyl album versions, and deluxe two disc editions with alternate takes (plus digital downloads of course). The deluxe 2CD track listing as given here :

    01 Untitled Original 11383 (Take 1)
    02 Nature Boy
    03 Untitled Original 11386 (Take 1)
    04 Vilia (Take 3)
    05 Impressions (Take 3)
    06 Slow Blues
    07 One Up, One Down (Take 1)

    01 Vilia (Take 5) - the only previously released track
    02 Impressions (Take 1)
    03 Impressions (Take 2)
    04 Impressions (Take 4) (3:40)
    05 Untitled Original 11386 (Take 2)
    06 Untitled Original 11386 (Take 5)
    07 One Up, One Down (Take 6)

    Stories in today's Guardian and with a little more background detail the New York Times.

    Can't wait - *happy dance*.
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  2. killer b

    killer b Minimum Waste / Maximum Joy

    well, this is good news.
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  3. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Raddled old poet

    Was reading about this earlier. Very exciting.
  4. Lurdan

    Lurdan old wave

    There was a short item about John and Alice Coltrane on the R4 Today programme which includes interview snippets with Ravi Coltrane about this release and a couple of tempting fragments in the background from 'Nature Boy' and 'Slow Blues'.

    Mp3 here - open in a new tab to play.
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  5. Threshers_Flail

    Threshers_Flail Well-Known Member

  6. andysays

    andysays Defiantly non-premium member

    Hmm, interesting...
  7. Lurdan

    Lurdan old wave

    Sample track now up on YouTube

    Putting my 'fat controller' trainspotters hat on : Apparently in 2005 Naima Coltrane's family tried to auction the collection of 35 reel to reel recordings they possessed. The auction was blocked by Verve as most were Coltrane's copies of sessions recorded for Impulse. There matters remained until whatever deal over this tape was struck last year.

    Barry Kernfeld had been given access to the tapes in order to write a description for the auction catalogue. His account of the contents of the tapes was subsequently published in a Dutch journal and used to be on the web (but is archived here).

    His description provided much of the detail for the relevant bits of the sessionography in The John Coltrane Reference Book, although for some reason that book claims Jimmy Garrison sits this track out (the only known take of this untitled composition). Which he clearly doesn't.

    Be nice if this release meant that some of the other material Kernfeld describes is forthcoming.
  8. killer b

    killer b Minimum Waste / Maximum Joy

    this is a mouthwatering essay. thanks for the link.
  9. andysays

    andysays Defiantly non-premium member

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  10. yardbird

    yardbird Understands love.

    This is amazing news.
    I shall listen this evening as the sun goes down.

    Oh how I wish that some lost Charlie Parker was suddenly found !
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  11. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Raddled old poet

  12. Lurdan

    Lurdan old wave

    Particularly like 'Untitled 11386' and 'One Up, One Down'. I've had all the versions of the latter on rotation for the last hour and a half while I try to decide to what extent it's an ancestor of 'Transition'. Better give the neighbours a break I guess :)
  13. killer b

    killer b Minimum Waste / Maximum Joy

  14. killer b

    killer b Minimum Waste / Maximum Joy

    Ive got the coltrane/hartman album on - totally different beast innit?
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  15. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Raddled old poet

    Completely. Do you know the Ballads album? Also excellent.
  16. killer b

    killer b Minimum Waste / Maximum Joy

    Yeah, im a big fan of Ballads. This feels kind of like a companion album to that.
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