Is a revolution possible in the UK?

[Kid_Eternity]

Looking at the state of the country, the state of politics with the jostling of populism and the rest could a revolution ever happen in this country?

 

[cupid_stunt]

No, despite things being shit ATM, people wouldn't want to risk wrecking the things that are important in every day life.

 

[Gromit]

It is said that Revolution it occurs when the middle classes are badly hurt.

With ordinary people using food banks we could be close.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Doubt it. Most people just seem to accept things, however shit. They might grumble and moan, but won't actually do anything.

 

[eatmorecheese]

I had a safe house in North Wales, the Sierra Maestra of the UK, but I couldn't get recruits and sheep ate all my supplies.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

No, despite things being shit ATM, people wouldn't want to risk wrecking the things that are important in every day life.

Where's the line that pushes them over into 'nothing to lose' territory (speaking about the current state in the UK not historically or in another country)?

 

[shifting gears]

No, more’s the pity

 

[eatmorecheese]

Where's the line that pushes them over into 'nothing to lose' territory (speaking about the current state in the UK not historically or in another country)?

Food scarcity, arbitrary death at the hands of the state, dehumanisation, fear and terror. Otherwise, people struggle and protest within the existing order. It ain't that bad yet...

 

[cupid_stunt]

Where's the line that pushes them over into 'nothing to lose' territory

A very long, long way away.

I guess something like the complete collapse of the banking system, so people couldn't buy the likes of food, etc., would do it, that's why Gordan Brown worked so hard to avoid that.

 

[A380]

Almost all revolutions happen at the point where things have been bad but are starting to improve (there are a couple of exceptions). And there have been many revolutions in the history of the UK.

 

[Silas Loom]

I think that a revolution is less likely to happen in the UK per se than in some specific UK region or town, following a catastrophic event, or on a supranational scale, possibly with the connivance or at the instigation of a machine consciousness.

 

[MickiQ]

Nope not happening, I worked in Liverpool from 1980 to 1988 which was most of Thatchers reign and I could rely on being told at least twice a day that things couldn't go on like this and a revolution was imminent.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Nope not happening, I worked in Liverpool from 1980 to 1988 which was most of Thatchers reign and I could rely on being told at least twice a day that things couldn't go on like this and a revolution was imminent.

God bless the looney left.

 

[Serge Forward]

Looking at the state of the country, the state of politics with the jostling of populism and the rest could a revolution ever happen in this country?

Not without a class conscious and organised working class, no.

 

[bellaozzydog]

Where's the line that pushes them over into 'nothing to lose' territory (speaking about the current state in the UK not historically or in another country)?

I’m guessing losing family housing would vex the middle class

Enough to revolt

Probable not

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Everything is possible everywhere.

 

[Yossarian]

Food scarcity

I think Lenin said something along the lines of "Every society is three missed meals away from chaos"

 

[8ball]

Everything is possible everywhere.

Like walking through walls if you believe that quantum mechanics shizz.

Not very likely, though.

 

[chilango]

Yes.

...but probably not the type we're after.

 

[Knotted]

Covid taught us that the political class are really bad at handling crises while at the beginning of the pandemic people were organising quite naturally along mutual aid lines before the state took over. It was a good test of how people cope with change and we did surprisingly well even if the government didn't lagging behind popular opinion on lock-downs. British popular small "c" conservativism is a bit of myth I think, certainly going forward.

 

[hitmouse]

I don't think it's likely in the near future, but then in January 2020 I didn't think that it becoming illegal to gather in groups of two more people was likely to happen within the next few months. I'm not good at predictions, the world does seem like it's becoming less rather than more stable overall though.

 

[ouirdeaux]

Unlikely, however tempting the idea.

 

[tonysingh]

A revolution would require the support, if not active participation, of the majority of the population. Since we're even those of us on the Left politically are riven with division, let alone others, then the chance of a revolution happening is so vanishingly small you'd have more chance of Scotland winning the Euros.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

I can guarantee that very few of you will be involved.

 

[Pickman's model]

Looking at the state of the country, the state of politics with the jostling of populism and the rest could a revolution ever happen in this country?

Yes

 

[Lotte]

Not as things stand. Brits are too compliant and not keen enough to make a fuss and things would have to get far, far worse than they are.

 

[Pickman's model]

Nope not happening, I worked in Liverpool from 1980 to 1988 which was most of Thatchers reign and I could rely on being told at least twice a day that things couldn't go on like this and a revolution was imminent.

Yeh but you don't say who was telling you. What might have happened 40 years ago might nor recur today.

 

[Pickman's model]

Not as things stand. Brits are too compliant and not keen enough to make a fuss and things would have to get far, far worse than they are.

Why? On what are you basing this things would have to get much worse than they are.

 

[xenon]

Also name one country that has recently had a revolution and it’s turned out quite well. not undercurrent conditions. There is no popular opposition with widespread support to rally around for a start. no widespread alternative I mean. A shit as things are for some people there is food in the shops. I mean it’s insanely naive to even think there are the conditions for a revolution at present. What are you throwing away and gain what. of course things change. But that is not what you’re asking.

 

[Mr Retro]

Not even a sliver of a chance of it. When people were told to wear masks for no provable reason by the authorities, 99% did. A revolution?