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Zarqawi killed in air raid

moono said:
Yeah, I covered that in #29. Do try and keep up. Oh, sorry, I forgot about the lobes.
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L&L has got it into his head that he doesn't like this thread and a number of the posters on it. That is his motivation and it is fucking transparent. Even putting him on ignore is pointless.
 
nino_savatte said:
L&L has got it into his head that he doesn't like this thread and a number of the posters on it. That is his motivation and it is fucking transparent. Even putting him on ignore is pointless.
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You really are a tiresome piece of shit, nino. Why don't you do as you promised and ignore me?
 
Thing is, I've put this tiresome auld fucker on ignore but he still snipes, stalks and plays silly buggers.
Lock&Light This user is on your Ignore List.
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Of course it doesn't occur to him that he should put others on ignore. Why? Because he thinks he's too good. It's a sure sign of a massive ego problem.

The sooner someone sees sense and bans the cunt, the better.
 
nino_savatte said:
The sooner someone sees sense and bans the cunt, the better.
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I've been posting on Urban a lot longer than you, nino, and will still be long after you've been banned for stalking.
 
Lock&Light said:
I've been posting on Urban a lot longer than you, nino, and will still be long after you've been banned for stalking.
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I've taken you off ignore temporarily because I have just seen this incredibly revealing statement: you think that I am likely to get banned because you've "been posting on Urban a lot longer"? My your ego is so large that it surely must have its own MEP in Strasbourg. Your time here is irrelevant, it is what you have been doing and I could find countless posts of yours - all of them the same. It's time you either engaged others properly or fucked off altogether.

I don't stalk others, that's what you do and like your tiresome sniping, evidence of your stalking abounds.
 
ns;
It's time you either engaged others properly or fucked off altogether.
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Yeah, I'd agree with that. A couple of 'asides' is acceptable but repeated and egocentric interjection isn't. It's something that Astronaut is also guilty of.
Cement wellies and orf the pier.
 
Taken from the MediaLens message board..........

There should be mass celebration today in Iraq, and in the press, and by mongers everywhere, for today was the day that Iraq's new Prime Minister Nouri Maliki finally filled the three vacant ministerial posts in his new, and now complete, government. Democracy! Rejoice!
By sheer coincidence this heartening story has been blasted off the front page by the announcement, on the same day, of the killing of the terrorist Zarqawi, which took place yesterday.

Then again, looking at the newly appointed ministers, perhaps it wasn't so unfortunate:

Defence Minister

Abdul Qadir Obeidi - one of Saddam Hussein's generals

Interior Minister

Jawad al-Bulani, an aide to the Governing Council from the Iraqi Hizbollah party

National Security Minister

Shirwan Waili - a former military officer under Saddam Hussein
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and this from the Washington Post (just 2 months ago)

The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military documents and officers familiar with the program. The effort has raised his profile in a way that some military intelligence officials believe may have overstated his importance and helped the Bush administration tie the war to the organization responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The documents state that the U.S. campaign aims to turn Iraqis against Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian, by playing on their perceived dislike of foreigners. U.S. authorities claim some success with that effort, noting that some tribal Iraqi insurgents have attacked Zarqawi loyalists.

Two slides from a briefing prepared for Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, describe a U.S. military propaganda campaign that was intended to highlight the role of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian terrorist, in the Iraqi insurgency. By emphasizing his foreign origin, the "psychological operations" effort sought to play on a perceived Iraqi dislike of foreigners and so split the insurgency.

For the past two years, U.S. military leaders have been using Iraqi media and other outlets in Baghdad to publicize Zarqawi's role in the insurgency. The documents explicitly list the "U.S. Home Audience" as one of the targets of a broader propaganda campaign.

Some senior intelligence officers believe Zarqawi's role may have been overemphasized by the propaganda campaign, which has included leaflets, radio and television broadcasts, Internet postings and at least one leak to an American journalist. Although Zarqawi and other foreign insurgents in Iraq have conducted deadly bombing attacks, they remain "a very small part of the actual numbers," Col. Derek Harvey, who served as a military intelligence officer in Iraq and then was one of the top officers handling Iraq intelligence issues on the staff of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told an Army meeting at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., last summer.
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and this

this looks interesting although i cant see it at work
 
First of all, he only led one small faction, albeit theone with perhaps the most international media attention. Second of all, his "organisation" is structured in classic guerilla fashion so that one cog does not effect the machine at all, save perhaps in terms of recruitment since he was seen as a hero by some.
 
Wow some people on here really need to invest in a 4x4 to really see who's got the biggest penis!!!

Anyway, on the topic...

I don't know how this event will play out for Iraq. I'm sure a great many people in America have spent the day wanking like sperm was going out of fashion, but killing Zarqawi could cause a back lash and attacks may increase. If Zarqawi was the mastermind behind most terrorist attacks in Iraq then maybe they will decrease as a result, but al-Qaida tend to start things rolling, set an example to others and let them do the rest of the work, so it may be that nothing will change (apart from a bit of positive moral boost to the coalition)

Either way, I'm not sorry he's dead
 
I see the Americans are publicly displaying pictures of the corpse. They fall further into the slime of primitivism week by week.
 
Rather amazingly the father of Nick Berg, the guy who was allegedly beheaded by Zarqawi's gang has said that he regrets the Zarqawi's death. In a statement he said:

"The death of every human being is a tragedy. The death of Mr. Zarqawi means a continuation of the violence and revenge that took the life of my son. This will mean an increase in violence and resistance to the occupation of Iraq by the US military."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060608/ts_alt_afp/iraqzarqawiusberg_060608141042
 
The death of Zarqawi is of some significance. He was a fugurehead for al Queda in Iraq, he was a rallying point for international Jihadists. He was also extremely commited to his cause. He obviously was a far above average Jihadist and founded a well run organisation that was able to carry out many brutal killing of a geonicidal nature. His death is a relief to mankind. Any snide comments will need to take into account the fact that the man was a genocidal butcher who Iraq is infinitly better of without. There were civillian casualties, but unlike many of the random shootings into the dark and the gunning of any moving vehicle, few could doubt that this was a legitimate act of moral good. It would take an very strong pacifist to say otherwise. There were French civilian casualties on D Day, sometimes you just have to do it.

No one in any right mind can defend the man.

To what degree he orginised all of the bombings I have no idea. But there have been long circulated rumours that many of the sectarian bombings attributed to him were actualy Sunni local resistance trying to stir trouble to prevent the new government bedding in and to force america out. With the bete noir gone perhaps there will be more focus on that.

His death however will do little to slow the insurgency nor will it stop the slide into civil war. The slide into civil war is driven as much by Badr and other Shia militias as by the Sunnis. And of course Kurdish ethnic cleansing is also being ignored. It is possible in the long run that his death will be a blow for the government as many Takifirs may fall under the command of the Sunni insurgency, and they have extremely able former generals and western trained intelligence officers in there ranks.

The friciton between the salfist (takifir) jihadis and locals was groing as an apparent attack on a Sufi shrine in a mosque (I am not 100% certain of the exact nature of the building) by Jihadists was repelled by the 1920 revolutionary briagade in Falluja (that is the famous local millitia). With Zarqawi gone these tensions may ease and they may start fighting the occupier in co ordination.

I have to dash so that is all I can post atm. Please feel free to resume the personal slagging in my absence.
 
Moono: I find it telling that you admonish America for displaying the coropse. Do you feel the "Palestinians" are primitive as well for their having done the same thing many times ? At least America has a sound rationale, rather than gloating. America is trying t quell any mystery on whether or not the man was actually killed.
 
nino_savatte said:
I've taken you off ignore temporarily
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What a bare-faced liar you are, nino. :(

nino_savatte said:
you think that I am likely to get banned because you've "been posting on Urban a lot longer"?
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As you obviously don't like it 'up you' I will not point out to you how you have totally failed to read what I actually said.
 
admirablenelson said:
"Tony Blair has hailed the death of militant leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in Iraq as "very good news"."

I think this simple statement gives a very clear idea of the barbarity of this whole conflict. The death of a person is not "good news". It may be a decisive moment or a strategic advance, but it is not good news.
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Actually, it's good news.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Good to see the real you at last.
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Just shows how much you know, kiddo.

I first said that years ago.

Check out the thread of 'funniest' things said by Urbanites. That was my only contribution, (courtesy of Stobart Stopper, who picked it out and placed it).
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Why do you talk to him?
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I hardly ever do. I did ask him recently why he thought that Zarqawi was only a 'fly', but he never chose to respond to that.

The following list is complete since I started to preserve it. Not one of these comments, by nino, were provoked, in any way, by me:

09-11-2005, 02:38 PM:
Projecting again L&L?
*In his best Bill Grundy voice* Go on, say something clever.

17-02-2006, 09:58 AM:
L&L has recently taken to defending rogue yam on another thread. I get the feeling L&L doesn't read posts properly...but I suspect this misreading of posts is deliberate.

17-04-2006, 11:51 AM:
It's a pity that you don't take the advice of your own tagline. I think you'd look good on top of a bonfire.

17-04-2006, 11:54 AM:
Lock & Light (with emphasis on the word "light") a "shitstirrer"? There musht be shome mishtake shurely.

18-04-2006, 12:41 PM:
Tbh, most people should have put you on "ignore" ages ago. When did you last make a proper contribution to a thread?

01-05-2006, 01:19 PM:
I wouldn't bother with L&L, as it is a waste of time.

15-05-2006, 11:10 AM:
Are the people of Tibet going to listen to you? I don't think so...I mean who are you anyway?

19-05-2006, 12:31 PM:
This is as good as it gets with L&L. he doesn't 'do' discussion or debate for fear of being exposed as an intellectual lightweight. (he'd never admit to that, mind) Easier to play the prat than to discuss things in an adult fashion.

25-05-2006, 11:35 AM:
L&L believes that doing nothing is better than doing something. The status quo must be respected at all times. In his mind, inertia is the way forward.

25-05-2006, 12:07 PM:
Oh aye, it's about as satisfying as trying to discuss anything with L&L. It's a waste of time.

08-06-2006, 01:45 PM:
Trust L&L to come along with his pointless bollocks. It is quite typical of him to twist the facts to suit his massive, but ultimately shallow, ego.

08-06-2006, 04:06 PM:
L&L has got it into his head that he doesn't like this thread and a number of the posters on it. That is his motivation and it is fucking transparent. Even putting him on ignore is pointless.
 
Does this thread really need this personal bickering?


As for the beheader Zarqawi, if the USofA knew he was there, why didn't they send in their speciel forces to arrest or even single out him for a bullet, and thus avoid the child dieing?
 
astronaut said:
If true, good ridence to extremist scum.
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An interesting sentiment from a soi-disant "pacifist".

Somewhat contradictory though.
Unfortunately, he and his followers have already wreaked any chance of Iraqis living a normal life, at least in the next decade or two or more, so it's not so significant.
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That's "wrecked".

Rather like your grasp of written English by the looks of it.
 
I heard on the radio that one of his own people tipped off the military, but I haven't seen anything in print to confirm this. It had something to do with a power struggle within his group. They gave the name of the person who would succeed him as the tipper.

Has anyone else seen or heard this? :confused:
 
He's dead done, fuck him.

We shouldn't give him any more time of day. Media blackout I say.

The cunt's probably sittin up there wherever the fuck he is laughing his fuckin head off at how big a deal the media circus is making of it.

You can't buy exposure like this.

Lets please not give this murdering fuckwit any more free publicity for recruiting more mudering extremist zealots.

I hope this and all related threads get deleted tbh and if there are any hackers out there that want to make a name for themselves, take down the sites of as many news portals as possible.

I say no more.
 
ViolentPanda said:
An interesting sentiment from a soi-disant "pacifist".

Somewhat contradictory though.

That's "wrecked".

Rather like your grasp of written English by the looks of it.
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All that aside, it's good that Zarqawi is dead.
 
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