youtube to block uk music videos

[purplex]

Well, I see it this way: I don't give a toss about big artists, but there are plenty of musicians out there who actually don't make a great deal of money, and I think Google should chip them some.

This is just another example of American corporates setting the rules to suit themselves.
Youtube are stealing a living from other peoples effort, fuck em.
The PRS dont simply represent the U2s of this world, people like John Truelove have made sure of that.

 

[gnoriac]

Yeah, far better for some Yankie-based global money making machine to sell advertising around content they don't own without sharing that money - let them pocket all the dosh and fuck the artists.

Great idea.

What advertising? I can't see any on there. According to the article on radio4 google make nothing out of youtube, an all-round turkey.

 

[claphamboy]

What advertising? I can't see any on there. According to the article on radio4 google make nothing out of youtube, an all-round turkey.

There's an increasing amount of advertising being added to the bottom of the video frames.

Or is it only me they are targetting?

 

[claphamboy]

In October 2006, Google Inc. announced that it had acquired YouTube for US$1.65 billion in Google stock, and the deal was finalized on November 13, 2006.[20] Google does not provide detailed figures for YouTube's running costs, and YouTube's revenues in 2007 were noted as "not material" in a regulatory filing.[16] In June 2008 a Forbes magazine article projected the 2008 revenue at US$200 million, noting progress in advertising sales.[21]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube

I didn't think I was going mad.

 

[MightyAphrodite]

My girls da has heard rumblings and mutterings that Youtube are thinking of 'possibly' blocking all UK IP' s or ISP's or whatever from being able to access the Youtube site.

Which is rubbish.

Just have to wait and see I suppose. :-|

 

[doddles]

bah to both google and the record companies. Interesting music will always be available through other channels, and frankly I'd rather give my money directly to the bands that I like than channel it through one or more corporations who take the Lion's share before passing on the crumbs to the musicians.

 

[maomao]

I just watched several music videos by changing the country filter in youtube.

 

[_float_]

Youtube are stealing a living from other peoples effort, fuck em.

YouTube have been paying royalties, not stealing anything. They are just disputing the new prices.

It is hard to tell who is being "greedy" here: Google/YouTube say PRS is asking for too much money, PRS say they are not being offered enough.

Without an actual breakdown of the costs involved in running YouTube versus the revenue coming in, we can't say who is correct can we?

As for passing money directly to musicians: I have never paid to watch a music video online and I doubt I would sign up to a subscription service or a pay-per-view service. I enjoy watching stuff on YouTube - typically a mixture of blast-from-the-past classics and new stuff I have never heard of before, but I don't sit there watching youtube videos back-to-back in the same way as I would tune in to last.fm, spotify, iplayer or download an album of mp3s.

 

[Fez909]

Who cares. The appetite for this sort of thing is too big for YouTube to spoil the party. If nothing gets sorted soon a replacement will be along to takes its place.

 

[_float_]

Who cares. The appetite for this sort of thing is too big for YouTube to spoil the party. If nothing gets sorted soon a replacement will be along to takes its place.

What company is going to volunteer to spend billions of dollars providing a YouTube style service and make fuck-all profit out of it?

Why should anyone want to "take its place"?

Can you name another service/website out there that does the same thing?

Unless you mean downloading of pirated material which already exists, but personally I couldn't be bothered to download music videos and I definitely don't browse random and unknown bands like I do sometimes on YouTube. Pirated downloads also can't be embedded on blogs or linked to on forums.

Maybe the business model could be made to work if they stick non-skipable 30-second adverts on the front of every video, but I'd find this very unattractive and advertisers have been unwilling to place their brands alongside user-submitted content due to its random nature and quality.

 

[paolo]

Although difficult to judge without knowing the actual numbers, I'm suspecting that the PRS is being unrealistic.

"A lot of service providers are negotiating and renewing licences PRS right now, but the rates are widely known to be uneconomical," a source close to the negotiations told Media Guardian. "Nobody could run an online business on those terms."

Apparently the UK lost Pandora due to PRS rates.

 

[marty21]

i quite liked pandora

 

[Alchemist256]

Man, this sucks.
But I kinda had to happen.

 

[kyser_soze]

PRS or Google being the problem?

I suspect it's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. Google probably didn't need to take the videos down, but then again they're probably keen to demonstrate to the PRS how much revenue they will lose their artists, plus the general ill will it'll generate, if they tru and get too much per play...

 

[Crispy]

threads merged

 

[Helen Back]

Is it possible to somehow circumvent the UK video ban? I've tried an IP blocker/chnger thing ("Easy-Hide-IP") and changing the country filter as suggested above but neither has worked. I've also tried using a proxy site but still no luck (unless I'm doing it wrong).

Has anyone found anything that works?

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Is this all videos or only 'official' ones?

 

[DotCommunist]

Is it possible to somehow circumvent the UK video ban? I've tried an IP blocker/chnger thing ("Easy-Hide-IP") and changing the country filter as suggested above but neither has worked. I've also tried using a proxy site but still no luck (unless I'm doing it wrong).

Has anyone found anything that works?

Torrenting.

srsly this has got me back into d/l ing music from torrent sites again.

 

[skyscraper101]

This just sucks balls.

Not only has 120 Minutes been cancelled (my favorite music video show on TV) but now there's no bleeding music videos on Youtube in the UK. Fucking PRS.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Who needs home taping when the fucking cunts who are meant to be 'saving' music are in fact killing it?

 

[kained&able]

i just watched a cypress hill video and an akala video on youtube.

If you cant fnd something on youtubecos of the ban they ae hardly the only game in town.

Try http://www.dailymotion.com/


dave

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

But prs aren't even telling them what artists/labels are part of the deal innit?

dave

Any UK artist can claim PRS.

If it wasn't for PRS I wouldn't have a pay check this month.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Youtube vids still working for me

Currently enjoying ladyhawk - my delirium, cracking song

 

[The Unseen]

I searched for Archie Bronson Outfit and can't get anything but live stuff, but on a whim looked for Dizzy Rascal fix up look sharp and it played no problem!

 

[Helen Back]

I've cracked it. The problem was I was logged into my youtube account which is UK based. Once I'd logged out and used the IP changer I was ok, played vids fine.

 

[skyscraper101]

Good news. Looks like the deal is back on.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8234125.stm