Your suggestions for UK and USA battle plan in Iraq

[Bernie Gunther]

I think one important lesson from the US's eventual pull-out from Vietnam should be kept in mind when they have to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Take anyone who is likely to be executed/tortured etc as a collaborator with you and settle them in the US.

That's the least you can do for the poor buggers.

 

[Giles]

Use nerve gas to destroy large swathes of the population. Then we can pump the oil out in peace later on, once the gas has dispersed.

The oil was what we came for, wasn't it?

Giles..

 

[davgraham]

The thread title is wrong - its the US and UK battle plan . . . . . for everywhere.


BLAIR CALLS FOR EVERYONE TO RECORD DNA ON DATABASES:
The Scotsman
24 Oct 2006
<http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1571422006> I've not seen this reported anywhere else.


There's always the 'war after the war' - which is why the CGS was worried about the British Army being 'degraded'* by Iraq/ Afghanistan.

*degraded - as in loss of operational effectiveness, loss of fitness for purpose I would assume he meant, I've listened to the inverview in full and that's the meaning I get out of it.

Gra

 

[scawenb]

Seeing as they made such a balls-up of their entrance strategy I expect their exit strategy will be even worse. The military don't seem happy bunnies at present and never much like an obvious retreat. The Resistance will be jubilant and are likely to see it as a ideal moment to give them a greater kick-up the arse without fear of retaliation. The silent cells in the police and perhaps the Iraqi Army may break free and split it or someone might try a coup amid the chaos - everyone allways likes a man of action in a crisis. Iran will secure the Shia, Turkey will be watching te Kurds and everyone else will stand well back in case the sparks fly.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

The thread title is wrong - its the US and UK battle plan . . . . . for everywhere.


BLAIR CALLS FOR EVERYONE TO RECORD DNA ON DATABASES:
The Scotsman
24 Oct 2006
<http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1571422006> I've not seen this reported anywhere else.
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I also understand that they're piloting something in Northern Ireland that allows council employees access to people's homes on pain of large fines if you don't let them in. I'll see if I can dig the link out again.

 

[kyser_soze]

Nukes. They've already caused the death's of 600K Iraqis directly or indirectly so in the grand scheme 100,000 more in a single event won't cause any more outrage among the already outraged, plus it'd scare the bejesus out of Iran.

And the Yanks could try and claim that they had found a WMD and it accidentally went off...

(BTW, for the hard of thinking, this isn't a serious proposition)

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Thing is, a likely side effect of taking away the civil liberties of a minority on the grounds of 'special circumstances' and routinely taking away the civil liberties of everybody for dull reasons like council tax assessments, is that those civil liberties are getting chipped away from all directions.

Doubtless this will make Britain more 'competitive' in the global marketplace.

 

[laptop]

Dien Bin Phu.

... I have no idea right now for a strategy or a battle plan, but as I suggested on the "army high heid mon" thread, the time is ripe for a tactic well-tested in the later years of that conflict:

Search and Avoid

 

[Bernie Gunther]

<snip> There's always the 'war after the war' - which is why the CGS was worried about the British Army being 'degraded'* by Iraq/ Afghanistan.

*degraded - as in loss of operational effectiveness, loss of fitness for purpose I would assume he meant, I've listened to the inverview in full and that's the meaning I get out of it.

Gra

It certainly wouldn't be wise to assume that Dannat and Inge's interests are perfectly congruent with the averge citizen. Listening to some of his stuff about 'Christian Britain' certainly doesn't inspire me with much trust.

 

[London_Calling]

The onkly way we can possibly do anything useful is this; LEAVE. NOW. every dayw e are there makes it worse. the iraqis say that. all their neighbours say that. everyone knows it. it's the least worst option.

And what about Amara ?

 

[david dissadent]

And what about Amara ?

If our troops are no longer there it will no longer be reported so longer be happening. Easy.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

... I have no idea right now for a strategy or a battle plan, but as I suggested on the "army high heid mon" thread, the time is ripe for a tactic well-tested in the later years of that conflict:

Search and Avoid

Well, that's interesting. I hadn't really thought about it that way, but having seen the visceral hatred towards Blair for getting them into this mess on places like ARRSE, it does now make sense that the higher ranks would be worried about a similar sort of effect.

Particularly such hardcore ruling class types as Inge and Dannatt.

 

[davgraham]

I also understand that they're piloting something in Northern Ireland that allows council employees access to people's homes on pain of large fines if you don't let them in. I'll see if I can dig the link out again.

there hasn't been a revaluation for Council Tax or Rates in NI for over 30 years - so the deal proposed by Hain is agree to a revaluation - and for council officers to have rights of entry as a price for re-opening Stormont.

Nicely ingratiates Sinn Fein and the DUP with their constituencies.

gra