Your favourite anti-union cliches!

[TAE]

Are you Irish by any chance?

WTF?!

 

[TAE]

Your favourite anti-union cliches!

"They are just another cartel" is one I've heard.

 

[Roadkill]

what is scabbing?

In all seriousness, if you genuinely don't know the answer to that question, that maybe explains why you're so far out of your depth on these threads...

 

[mauvais]

I've heard that unions come in through your window at night and steal your maps, and then when you want to go out somewhere exciting you can't, because all you have is a hopelessly futile grid reference, SU 680 313, darkly mocking you, and so you have to stay at home and toil, and even when you've finished toiling, you have nothing left to do but quietly sob over your one missed chance of freedom.

 

[Das Uberdog]

Goodbye kids.

And is that a 'goodbye' and good-riddance?

 

[Red Leicester]

"In my opinion this is the best we can achieve" - pretty much any union 'official'

 

[Citizen66]

"We must all work together in partnership."

pass the sick bag and a city bonus

 

[Citizen66]

Are you so stupid to believe that those things make me a tory? LOL That is rather funny!

No. in all honesty, it could make you new labour, also.

 

[shagnasty]

Not taking any bias with these two quotes
management "the strike as had no effect"
unions "the strike has been 100 per cent solid"
so which ever news source you read there will be the usual slant

 

[rover07]

"If they don't like their job, why don't they leave and do something else"

 

[rekil]

"Four legs good, two legs bad."

 

[Combustible]

"They were needed 100 years ago but..."

 

[butchersapron]

**** face more misery

 

[disownedspirit]

management 'the deal is on the table take it or leave it'
usually followed by
' we were always willing to talk to the union there was no need for this strike'

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

'Why should we all be blackmailed??!!!!' (Usually in an unnervingly shrieky voice)

'I don't understand why they need to do this?'

'Thatcher had the right idea'

 

[Tankus]

she did

 

[Louis MacNeice]

she did

But only once...

 

[bluestreak]

But only once...

many lols.

the dead were left unburied, you know.

 

[Belushi]

what is scabbing?

Jack London put it best

After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, and the vampire, he had some awful substance left with which he made a scab.

A scab is a two-legged animal with a corkscrew soul, a water brain, a combination backbone of jelly and glue.

Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles.

When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the devil shuts the gates of hell to keep him out.

No man (or woman) has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with.

Judas was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his master, he had character enough to hang himself. A scab has not.

Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage.

Judas sold his Savior for thirty pieces of silver.

Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commision in the british army.

The scab sells his birthright, country, his wife, his children and his fellowmen for an unfulfilled promise from his employer.

Esau was a traitor to himself; Judas was a traitor to his God; Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his country.

A scab is a traitor to his God, his country, his family and his class.

 

[bluestreak]

and he smells of wee too!

 

[rekil]

Lip wibbling anecdotes like "Just seen on the 5:30 news, a small baby sick and in isolation and the nurses will not answer the phone to his distraught mother."

 

[Mandla]

Favourite union joke, in keeping with thread topic: Union rep returns from meeting with management/owners and says to his constuent: Comrades, we negotiated an excellent deal. You are going to get a 20% increase, and you only have to work on Wednesdays. One of the workers puts up his hand and enquires: "Every WEDNESDAY?"

 

[YoursTruly]

...and coke snorting.

Fuckoff toryboy.

Only because there's money in the city. Let's face it, coke snorting is hardly the preserve of high-flying bankers and stock market traders.

 

[YoursTruly]

That doesn't really answer my question. Would you scab? Would you cross a picket line? Are you Irish by any chance? We have a whole generation of your sort unfortunately.

Can't speak for Wookster but

A) I would never join a union.
B) I would leave a company if more than 50% of the workforce were in a union. No offence intended, but it would not be right for me as it's bad enough having the normal corporate and governmental red tape, without the unions and I believe business needs less rules not more.

So I would cross a picket line and I wouldn't have a problem doing so, because less than 50% of the firm would have been on strike.

However in the rare circumstances in which I worked for a firm that suffered a strike with more than 50% of the workforce, I would not cross the picket line.

I think that is a reasonable attitude to have.

I know some people think that crossing ANY picket line is scabbing. Well those people think that ANY picket line is reasonable. A lot of people don't.

 

[butchersapron]

But what about my rights!!!

 

[dennisr]

A) I would never join a union.

But you would be happy to get the conditions and pay won by a union?

B) I would leave a company if more than 50% of the workforce were in a union. No offence intended, but it would not be right for me as it's bad enough having the normal corporate and governmental red tape, without the unions and I believe business needs less rules not more.

What, 'red tape' like health and safety? representation when negotiating or defending yourself with employers? ensuring and defending decent pay?

Yep, the 'free market' employers can do without 'red tape' such as this - bosses should be able to insist on the same conditions faced by say chinese workers so 'we' can 'compete' - is that your view?

absolutely - a gun at your back, a bowl of rice a day and none of this 'red tape' (sic)

mug

 

[dennisr]

I think that is a reasonable attitude to have.

if you are a happy little slave, like

 

[bluestreak]

i found it, i found it...

(only vaguely relevant)

Originally Posted by Joyceboy
I'd bury my own dead for a 4 day weekend...

 

[JTG]

dennis said it better than I did.

People who happily take advantage of pay and conditions won by unions and are kept safe by the health and safety conditions monitored by them yet say they'd never join one are almost as bad as scabs.

 

[rekil]

Can't speak for Wookster but

A) I would never join a union.
B) I would leave a company if more than 50% of the workforce were in a union. No offence intended, but it would not be right for me as it's bad enough having the normal corporate and governmental red tape, without the unions and I believe business needs less rules not more.

So I would cross a picket line and I wouldn't have a problem doing so, because less than 50% of the firm would have been on strike.

However in the rare circumstances in which I worked for a firm that suffered a strike with more than 50% of the workforce, I would not cross the picket line.

I think that is a reasonable attitude to have.

I know some people think that crossing ANY picket line is scabbing. Well those people think that ANY picket line is reasonable. A lot of people don't.

Anyone who doesn't want employment rights should not be entitled to any.

I think that is a reasonable attitude to have.