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[twistedAM]

Depends how it's done. It is not really being written about but the new owners of my club City are bending over backwards to make sure that doesn't happen.
Cheaper tickets, discount european nights, free live streaming on our website, proper meaningful discussion with fans on forums, city in the community, focus on the academy ... they are doing everything right. I feel they are taking us along with them, as opposed to along for the ride.

gx

I hope so but if we drop a string of points in December I hope they don;t press the panic button and but some European Cup journeymen to shunt out the likes of Stevie, Neddy and the up-and-coming Vlad.

 

[g force]

Crazy rich owners no. Competent rich owners - no problem. As long as they don't interfere with the board and managers wishes. I like the Glazer's stand-off approach to United. So far it has not disrupted the youth policy or the acquisition of new talent.

For me, its about their success at developing the image of the club on and off the pitch which I admire. Manchester United's image in Asia is something that City and Chelsea still have a long way to go to match. Obviously this is borne out through superstar players like Beckham and Ronaldo - and they continue to do so with Rooney, Park Ji Sung etc... but fostering success is more than just megabucks deals to get the best manager and the best players, its about making a club so successful with a legacy and a history and a whole generation of followers in tons of countries that ensures the team can afford to stay on top. Were it not for the development of Man United's youth squad in the early nineties - only some of their modern day success would have been possible and they would doubtful have been as lucrative an investment for the Glazer family.

It does seem like some clubs are just rich billionaires toys now. I wonder how long it will be before impatient notions kick in and they start demanding the 'instant reward' they feel they deserve for all their cash. How many managers have we now had at Chelsea? Do you get the feeling that if they don't perform as expected in the next couple of seasons, Abramovic will just sell up through boredom and find a new toy to play with? It'll be interesting to see how megabucks teams with megabucks players cope without their billionaire sugar daddy then. How big is Chelsea internationally? More to the point how big is Manchester City? Do they even sell their shirts outside the UK? They'd better hope their investors don't bail after a few short lived seasons or those players will be soon flooding to the next club with ker-azy arab money being poured into it.

Do you like the Glazers huge leveraged debt to buy your club though? That's the issue....it's not like all these rich owners are actually using their cash to buy clubs, it's all debt.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

I don't want the Chelsea/Man City stupidity. However, our current situation is also stupidly parlous.

I'd like some decent owners willing to put the sort of money in for players that most prem clubs do, and show a bit of determination to keep the stars. If we had ambition I'm sure you wouldn't get constant stories, as we so often have, of players wanting to leave.

Imagine if we'd had a decent board back in like 99

 

[Relahni]

As a lifelong Chelsea fan, I wish we'd never been Chelsead. The club no longer has any fascination for me. It's slowly dribbled away every since Abramovic arrived. How can you get excited over a new player when there's virtually a whole new team every season?

And I don't have the mindset to be a fan of a club that wants to win things. I can't cope with expecting to win and being miserable when we lose. I liked the old days, when I expected to lose and was ridiculously happy when we won. I didn't even bother watching the FA Cup Final last year -- compare that with 1997, when I was glued to the telly from 9am.

Those who are wishing for the same, I tell thee: be careful what you wish for. The club may be successful, but it won't be your club any more.

Interesting to hear that but not surprising.

My friend who is a Chelsea fan (proper Chelsea fan) was absolutely delighted when you won the cup (before Roman). Dancing down the Kings Road, he was nearly in tears because he was so happy. Now he seems distant from it all. Strange really.

 

[Biffo]

Definitely. Football isn't 'real' anymore so bring on the rich Sheikhs and oil tycoons and lets have billionaire wank-offs. Ten years from now penalty shoot-outs won't exist. The captains of each team will fight to the death with guns and the rich owners will reward the victors with million pound bonuses per match.

Meh meh meh......

 

[isitme]

I would hate that to happen, I would like someone to buy us tho

 

[skyscraper101]

Do you like the Glazers huge leveraged debt to buy your club though? That's the issue....it's not like all these rich owners are actually using their cash to buy clubs, it's all debt.

I was concerned at the time and while I can't say I was happy about it ten, I'm less concerned having seen the few years of how it has played out.

 

[kabbes]

I increasingly view premiership sides in the same way that I view Sony or General Motors or Tescos. I might have my preferences, but they no longer get my affection.

 

[Fedayn]

Zola's great.

Thing is, what would you rather have - two muppets in charge of your club, fleecing it and might even send you into administration

Or like Liverpool get two rich muoppets in control who fleece it for expenses and flights who might send them into administration.... Puts hands together and prays.

yeah it is a difficult choice, but ion the end NO thanks, Nein Danke, Non merci, Non grazie.

 

[Rollem]

rich owners do not equate to success

it would seem

 

[kabbes]

rich owners do not equate to success

it would seem

20 premier clubs plus loads of top European clubs to go up against and only a handful of trophies (and only two that actually mean anything.) No matter how much money they put into it, it's not going to change that fact.

 

[Relahni]

Or like Liverpool get two rich muoppets in control who fleece it for expenses and flights who might send them into administration.... Puts hands together and prays.

yeah it is a difficult choice, but ion the end NO thanks, Nein Danke, Non merci, Non grazie.

I was actually talking about those two muppets.

 

[kabbes]

It strikes me that for all the opprobrium heaped on Chelsea and Manchester City, it is actually Manchester United that caused the current state of football. It was them that showed the modern way of global branding and megabucks transfers. They basically created the situation in which a club would have to be unbelievably rich to be able to compete. Is it any surprise that, given this, some clubs would opt for a short cut?

 

[g force]

I blame that cunt Kenyon. It's all his fault.

Which why when we knocked Chelsea out of the CL with a last minute goal I laughed. And laughed. And laughed. Where's your "brand" now Peter.....oh yeah that's right, trophyless.

 

[ericjarvis]

I increasingly view premiership sides in the same way that I view Sony or General Motors or Tescos. I might have my preferences, but they no longer get my affection.

Time you became a Brentford supporter I suppose. There's a London club that I'm able to be fond off. Not just because my great uncle played for them, and not just because there's a pub on each corner of Griffin Park (every ground should do this), but because they seem to be able to remain sanely connected to the local area without any envy of their wealthier disneyfied neighbours.

 

[kabbes]

Sorry, I'm already a Barnet supporter. I went to school in Potters Bar. I went to more Barnet games than Chelsea games as a kid.

Up the Bees! (The REAL Bees!)

 

[stupid dogbot]

looks like a cross between Paul McCenna, and Gorbachov.

 

[STFC]

I blame that cunt Kenyon. It's all his fault.

Which why when we knocked Chelsea out of the CL with a last minute goal I laughed. And laughed. And laughed. Where's your "brand" now Peter.....oh yeah that's right, trophyless.

Talking about 'brand' rather than 'club' is all wrong.

I'm so glad I don't support a brand.

 

[kabbes]

Talking about 'brand' rather than 'club' is all wrong.

I'm so glad I don't support a brand.

Before you get too smug, you should remember that the old-school Chelsea fans and Manchester City fans didn't choose to support a brand either. It was thrust upon them. And it could be thrust upon you. So remember that as you enjoy your righteous castigation.

 

[twistedAM]

It strikes me that for all the opprobrium heaped on Chelsea and Manchester City, it is actually Manchester United that caused the current state of football. It was them that showed the modern way of global branding and megabucks transfers. They basically created the situation in which a club would have to be unbelievably rich to be able to compete. Is it any surprise that, given this, some clubs would opt for a short cut?

You could probably lump Real Madrid and AC Berlosconi in there too.

 

[STFC]

Before you get too smug, you should remember that the old-school Chelsea fans and Manchester City fans didn't choose to support a brand either. It was thrust upon them. And it could be thrust upon you. So remember that as you enjoy your righteous castigation.

I know they didn't, and I am sorry for them. It doesn't stop me being glad though.

 

[bluestreak]

Well, speaking as a west ham fan, i have to admit that the icelandic experiment was a bit exciting. but i like it jussst the way it is now. we're not going to get relegated, play good football, have two utterly lovable chaps in charge, might challenge for a cup or give some decent teams a run for their money, and keeping our souls. mid-table obscurity with some charm and passion.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Thing is everyone went on about how much we spent in the 'Icelandic experiment', but it was only the kind of amounts that teams like Newcastle and Spurs spend year in year out

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

That said bluey don't you want just to have enough ambition to make the fruits of our top-drawer academy want to stay at our club?

I fucking hate it when i see all these people like Defoe, etc doing well at other clubs, if Brown had had an ounce of ambition and spent the money just a bit we'd be one of the big 4 now

 

[Final]

So long as the wages and stuff were sustainable relative to turnover, so that the club wouldn't go bankrupt once the sugar daddy upped and left then sure - show me the money.

 

[Silva]

It depends if the millionaire is question has some link to the club. One of the wealthiest moguls in Portugal is a well-known Porto fan, but always refused to take part in the board because he saw the club becoming one of the largest on Europe's second line of club football over the 80s and 90s, and never saw the need to invest or take charge.

I wouldn't mind if he (or his sons) finally decided to invest a lot of money in Porto. If it was some russian oligarch or oil sultan who just decided to buy any team in Europe that could be either us, Benfica, Lyon or AEK, I wouldn't like it one bit.