Your best and favourite nicknames / descriptions for Blair

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Our country has a democracy, Toney Blair won the elections so get over it. Just out of interest who is your great white hope then? Naturally you won't answer this question, because you don't like exposing yourself to ridicule do you, prefer to sneer at Toney Blair from the shadows.

I'm not in the shadows. I am an active member of a political party, different campaign groups and have stood for various elected offices on a few occasions.

However my party does not have the advantage of a hundred years of tradition which Labour have betrayed, vast corrupt donations and a largely lapdog press.

Strangely though, every other party is trying to imitate mine so we must be doing something right.

Blair is demonstrably corrupt, this pollutes our democracy. The Labour Party also "won" the election with around a third of the votes. Plenty of democracies have thrown up corrupt and dangerous leaders. Nobody thinks democracy is perfect so it is daft to think we should not criticise a democratically elected government.

I dont really have a great white hope, it will be a long time, if ever, before Caroline Lucas is a PM in waiting, I would though hope for Labour at least ditching their corrupt leader.
But we know the Labour Party to be generally a pack of spineless gullible shits.

 

[shagnasty]

you will give the poor man a complex he wiil begin to believe he can't walk on water.i like ramsey mcblair he betratrayed the labour party

 

[Greebozz]

A few points A third of people voted for Labour, so what, that is a higher percentage than any of the other parties as they won. And so what a lot of people only care about getting pissed and playing there ps2. I would not want them to vote anyway.

Proportional representation, Just look at the political gridlock in Europe. Also with PR in the UK you can bet your arse that there would be Al Quida and BNP members of parliament. That if the election was close the major parties would have to make deals with.

Any finally "Blair a poodle". If your friend were to be attacked and you stand by your friend against the attacker, that does not make you your mates poodle does it. It is what loyalty and friendship is all about.

 

[shagnasty]

you have to remember in a healthy democracy we must question our leaders.this is why i hate nu labour policy on schools to teach kids enough to get a job for their capatilist master .kids should be taught to question their world and especially its leaders

 

[Badger Kitten]

Phoney Tony was the monicker when I was a lass...

 

[siarc]

Star Chamberpot

 

[Descartes]

Any finally "Blair a poodle". If your friend were to be attacked and you stand by your friend against the attacker, that does not make you your mates poodle does it. It is what loyalty and friendship is all about.

and if your friend is about to do something that millions people demostrate against across the planet, and is out side of International Law, Don't you think you have a respoinsibiltity ' As A Friend' to say, Hang on, just a minute..... instead of, ' Ohh, yer, jolly gum drops, lets all do it, lead on George.'

Fawning over somebody like a syncophantic idiot and disregarding and tampering with any and all evidence to justify the criminal acts you are about to participate in and you say don't criticise, don't speak up, don't politely say, Excuse me fellas, should you really do that.

Hmm, I think not.

 

[Greebozz]

All these personal attack are Blair is mostly a Red Herrings

The issue is that the insurgents are defeating us in Iraq.

Blair has committed the ultimate crime of failing and seeming to lose the war.

They got it wrong, we all did. We thought that the Iraqi's all hated Saddam Hussein, and would welcome us with open arms.

Little planning was made how to keep the peace.

But failing does not make you bad evil or corrupt

There is an other side to this. On the other hand we all though Bush was hyping the whole lunatic terrorist bit. Surely terrorist are decent middle class people like us ,who are just misunderstood we thought. But yet another sixty Iraqis killed in a market bomb by a suicide bomber, to two hundred pilgrims. Maybe they are lunatics and we should stop them getting nuclear weapons some people think.

I am not trying to convince anyone just to let you know the though processes of the majority of people.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Iraq is one of many issues that get peoples goat.

It's a screw-up of immense proportions, a lot of it is down to the FAILURE of blair etc. to have FORESIGHT. Such an immense error of judgement deserves criticism, not excuses or trying to offload the blame elsewhere.

Greebozz

Perhaps you are in a unique position to reveal to us what the Iraqi people or even regeime had to do with terror prior to the 2003 invasion.

Again, the policy is a FAILURE.

The invasion was sold to us as being preventing possible terror in case Saddam gave weapons he didnt have to trrsts he had no connection with. Or maybe you have forgotten that with all the spin they try to addle your brain with.

So, let's run through that one more time: The invasion was to prevent terrorism. But, hang on a minute...there is now a lot more terrorism. Go figure, and make your bland excuses for this war criminal government elsewhere.

The US is a terror state and a supporter of terrorists and tyrants for a long long time.
The UK also supports tyrannical regeimes as and when it suits. Frankly, there is an inherent hypocricy in your apologism for our governments part in this absolutely enourmous cock-up. Yes I know terrorism is a bad thing, thanks for pointing it out.

Sadly the US have been killing more people (the vast majority of whom aint terrorists) than the terrorists could ever hope to.

Anyway, that's all a bit off topic. There's nothing wrong in a thread trying to collate the various monikers people have for our corrupt "leader". But, hey why not start your own thread listing all the nice things we could call him? Perhaps someone from the Labour Party will give you a gold star.

 

[Fruitloop]

The problem with Blair is not that he has failed, but that he has lied to those who put him in power and both UK citizens and others have died as a result. First there was 'no plans to attack Iraq', followed by clear evidence of WMDs that unfortunately couldn't be shown to any of us proles 'for security reasons', all this by way of dodgy dossiers, yellow-cake forgeries and broken manifesto promises.

The man is a fucking liar and a criminal, and the fact that NL have got buying off the m/c voters in the swing marginals (the only places where having a vote actually means anything) down to a fine art does fuck-all to rescue the situation, to be honest.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

The problem with Blair is not that he has failed, but that he has lied to those who put him in power and both UK citizens and others have died as a result. First there was 'no plans to attack Iraq', followed by clear evidence of WMDs that unfortunately couldn't be shown to any of us proles 'for security reasons', all this by way of dodgy dossiers, yellow-cake forgeries and broken manifesto promises.

I only use the "failure" argument to Blairs apologists, the sort who deliberately slip-slide round the fact that he is a liar and a war criminal. Oh, and corrupt.

Despite all prevarications it is self evident that the Iraq policy is a failure, it was purpotedly done to prevent terror. There is now more terror.

Sadly, even this argument falls down with the apologists because it relies on something called "consistent logic" which does not tally with the general apologist mindset.

 

[Greebozz]

I am not blind to what you are saying about Blair, I understand why you are saying it.

The big difference is that in my opinion Bush and Blair ballsed up trying to do the right thing. As for the other domestic stuff I think it depends on how critical you are as a person.

One minor point, are you not worried that just as in Iraq a regime change at number 10 could lead to something worse? I am sure they have changed but traditionally the Tories on on the side of business and the rich. just a thought, be careful what you wish for and all that.

 

[Joon]

Whatever other name we give him, the name Blair will always be synonymous with LIAR! That is his legacy.

 

[Das Uberdog]

I can't believe I ever registered for a site like this, what a bunch of middle class lefties. Honestly it would make any cunt vote far right reading this nonsense.

anyway bye forever, I've had enough of this shit

lol

 

[Joon]

What about - The Warlord of Westminster.

 

[Joon]

Here's my ALL TIME favourite description of Tony Blair - the FORMER PRIME-MINISTER!

 

[MatthewCuffe]

When was he the Prime Minister?

"Cliff Richard's Mate".

 

[Grego Morales]

...Also with PR in the UK you can bet your arse that there would be Al Quida (sic)... members of parliament.

That is perhaps the most utterly ridiculous and naive statement I have ever read. Including my own! Bonkers, just insane.

 

[Greebozz]

That is perhaps the most utterly ridiculous and naive statement I have ever read. Including my own! Bonkers, just insane.

Maybe not Al qaeda itself but a highly militant extreme Sahara Islam MPs, why is that crazy? How many Muslims view Bin Laden Al Zicawie as a hero? How many think British culture is just binge drinking and gambling? I don't know do you? Just on the anti American vote they would do very well under a proportional representation voting system.

 

[Idris2002]

Ireland has had PR since independence, and the range of political opinion in Dail Eireann (Irish parliament) has always been very narrow.

Germany since 1949 also has a form of PR - but it's been neatly modified to stop neo-nazis getting anywhere in a big way.

But even if some Islamists managed to get elected to parliament - so what? You think keeping them out of the house of commons would stop them agitating or recruiting or mobilising people?

And you already have a dangerous religious extremist as your minister of education, don't forget.

As for Tony - 'Scab' sums him up pretty well, I think.

 

[X-77]

They got it wrong, we all did. We thought that the Iraqi's all hated Saddam Hussein, and would welcome us with open arms.

I think you'll find 'we' on this board mostly did not believe that Iraqis would welcome 'us' with open arms. Please don't assume we all share your cuckoo land fantasies..

as for favourite names for blair - evil mass-murdering fuckwit is one off the top of my head.

 

[Grego Morales]

Maybe not Al qaeda itself but a highly militant extreme Sahara Islam MPs, why is that crazy? How many Muslims view Bin Laden Al Zicawie as a hero? How many think British culture is just binge drinking and gambling? I don't know do you? Just on the anti American vote they would do very well under a proportional representation voting system.

So fundamentalist muslims are well known for taking part in the democratic election process are they?

 

[Greebozz]

I think you'll find 'we' on this board mostly did not believe that Iraqis would welcome 'us' with open arms. Please don't assume we all share your cuckoo land fantasies..

as for favourite names for blair - evil mass-murdering fuckwit is one off the top of my head.

Muha HA HA hA HA HA HA HA HA HA Suckers

 

[Descartes]

I will admit, it does have a certian ring of truth about it.