You can put one act through Parliament...

[trainspotter]

Think of it as an application of Camus' philosophy of limits.

On the one hand, there would be a guaranteed minimum amount of money for everyone & on the other a limit on the amount of money anybody was allowed to have.

 

[Azrael23]

Abolition of the Bank of England. Govt prints its own money at a transparent public bank.

 

[tbaldwin]

Why just the public sector?

Cos its public money and it would be a good way of cutting pay differentials.

Ideally it would be good to have a maximum wage and minimum wage but the first step would be to cap public sector pay.It would be popular with most people.

 

[In Bloom]

Cos its public money and it would be a good way of cutting pay differentials.

Or of driving up wages in top jobs in the private sector.

 

[tbaldwin]

Or of driving up wages in top jobs in the private sector.

How do you work that one out????????

 

[In Bloom]

How do you work that one out????????

Via faulty logic, now I think it through

But it wouldn't actually eliminate economic disparity overall, as the highest paid jobs (now in the private sector) would just go to the well off, public school educated lot, while those from working class backgrounds would be in the public sector with less scope for advancement because they are limited in how far they can go.

Your idea would make inequality of opportunity worse, not better. Though equality of opportunity is not an end unto itself anyway.

 

[tbaldwin]

Via faulty logic, now I think it through

But it wouldn't actually eliminate economic disparity overall, as the highest paid jobs (now in the private sector) would just go to the well off, public school educated lot, while those from working class backgrounds would be in the public sector with less scope for advancement because they are limited in how far they can go.

Your idea would make inequality of opportunity worse, not better. Though equality of opportunity is not an end unto itself anyway.

err... So you are against a maximum wage in the public sector because it will stop "the scope for advancement" for people from working class backgrounds?
Seriously?

 

[In Bloom]

err... So you are against a maximum wage in the public sector because it will stop "the scope for advancement" for people from working class backgrounds?
Seriously?

I'm saying that it won't address inequality of opportunity or improve things for anybody, to be honest I don't really care one way or the other, just pointing out that it's a total fucking waste of time.

 

[Brainaddict]

What would the effect of a cap on all wages* be I wonder? I guess someone must have done studies?

*plus significant increase in minimum wage at the same time I guess.

 

[Binkie]

can i have another go? ok no one should be allowed to join the military unless thier family has assets of 10 million or more, then lets see how many wars we rush into

nice one

 

[tbaldwin]

I'm saying that it won't address inequality of opportunity or improve things for anybody, to be honest I don't really care one way or the other, just pointing out that it's a total fucking waste of time.

Short of total overnight social change,you seem to think everything is a total fucking waste of time.
Any step towards Social Change is not good enough for you.IT'S ALL OR NOTHING politics.

 

[In Bloom]

Short of total overnight social change,you seem to think everything is a total fucking waste of time.
Any step towards Social Change is not good enough for you.IT'S ALL OR NOTHING politics.

It's not a step towards anything, it's a waste of fucking time. Who will benefit from your idea? More specifically, how will the working class benefit from it?

It's not enough to hurt rich people for no reason, if you want to do that, go out and firebomb a wine bar, at least that'd be funny

 

[tbaldwin]

It's not a step towards anything, it's a waste of fucking time. Who will benefit from your idea? More specifically, how will the working class benefit from it?

It's not enough to hurt rich people for no reason, if you want to do that, go out and firebomb a wine bar, at least that'd be funny

Who will benefit? Well if councils spent less on six figure wages for chief executives they would have more for other stuff. Like low paid workers and services.
If you think firebombing a wine bar is funny,maybe you should do it.... Cant help thinking you would probably just set yourself alight.

 

[In Bloom]

Who will benefit? Well if councils spent less on six figure wages for chief executives they would have more for other stuff. Like low paid workers and services.

Yeah, that's going to fucking happen

All the cost cutting and PFI is all going to one place, back into the pockets of big business.

 

[ZWord]

One possibility.

The residential property act.

Rent and mortgage contracts become unenforceable in law.

Or alternatively: All residential property reverts to the Crown, who makes everyone the free tenant of wherever they happen to live.

Or alternatively, the compromise: Only private individuals can own residential property, and they have to be residents of the UK, or UK passport holders, and the maximum number of properties they can own is 2 or 3.


Yes, but... the banks would go bust, the economy would implode, we'd all starve. A serious criticism.? Still, it might give us the chance to start again, with a clean slate, I suppose we could always try and sell England as the party capital of the world.

 

[Andy the Don]

Realign old age pensions with earnings. Instead of as currently the Retail Price Index..

 

[tbaldwin]

Realign old age pensions with earnings. Instead of as currently the Retail Price Index..

Agreed a very good idea..

 

[atitlan]

Realign old age pensions with earnings. Instead of as currently the Retail Price Index..

Better still set up an Essential Spending Index (covering things like food, energy and housing costs) and align pensions to that.

It would also give leverage in wage negotiations elsewhere.

Earnings are undoubtedly a better index than RPI, but wage rises at the moment are mostly geared to inflation which itself doesn't reflect the cost of living rises in unavoidable spending areas.