"You can go and work in Europe, Mandelson tells strikers"

[_angel_]

Yup - and if you are too lazy to be the cheapest, stop complaining.

Think that's what you meant.

 

[Fire]

blue collar workers like you need to stop complaining and get yourself sorted. Be the best and you'll get the job.

Sit on your arse and bitch and you won't be able to move on.

 

[danny la rouge]

This time, Mandy has it right.

British workers have been compared to other workers and have been found wanting. Tough shit.

You want the job, be the best.

You mean: you want the best, be the cheapest and willing to put up with the worst terms.

Sorry, but, no.

 

[_angel_]

blue collar workers like you need to stop complaining and get yourself sorted. Be the best and you'll get the job.

Sit on your arse and bitch and you won't be able to move on.

Be the CHEAPEST and get the job..

 

[DotCommunist]

blue collar workers like you need to stop complaining and get yourself sorted. Be the best and you'll get the job.

Sit on your arse and bitch and you won't be able to move on.

your use of a US centric class descriptor leads me to conclude that you really aren't equipped to pass comment on the situation. That and your infantile idea that it's about who is 'best'

it's a cost exercise, pure and simple.

 

[danny la rouge]

Be the CHEAPEST and get the job..

Snap.

 

[Fire]

your use of a US centric class descriptor leads me to conclude that you really aren't equipped to pass comment on the situation. That and your infantile idea that it's about who is 'best'

it's a cost exercise, pure and simple.

You sound like... a dinosaur. Good luck finding a job with that mentality.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Are you actually suggesting the a company should NOT employ the best, most cost effective solution? <snip>

Well, exactly what are the benefits and who receives them, when they go for the most cost-effective solution?

 

[Prince Rhyus]

Cheapest =/= the best

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Well, even assuming comparable quality to keep things simple, what are the assumed benefits of going with the most cost-effective option and who receives them?

 

[audiotech]

You want the job, be the best.

You in derivatives?

 

[gosub]

This time, Mandy has it right.

British workers have been compared to other workers and have been found wanting. Tough shit.

You want the job, be the best.

Oil and gas workers are some of the most can do people I have come across, for example in Putin and Kissinger's central Asian game of crazy plumbing, both sides have been dependant on British expertise. It is not an industry people generally get into because they are looking for a nice steady 9-5 with easy commute. The undercut workers say they never saw the jobs advertised, I'm more inclined to believe them, but should all come out in the wash.

More over if you don't entrench heavy industry like this within a local community ( a proportion a local workers by no means all) then how are you going to get them built in the future, they are an eyesore, with the potential for massive environmental catastrophe, the stuff of NIMBY protests and cliched films about protest, where the one strong argument that the pantomime progressives cling to is "it will mean jobs". If the lowest common denominator applies, then there is no guarantee those jobs will come from the community that has to put with this progress. And if the work force are working long shifts then going back to their labour camp style boat billets, then they are not bringing money into that community either.

ETA sorry only just read Free Spirit putting the second bit rather better, in the other thread here

 

[scifisam]

Why does everything have to be easy?

It doesn't have to be easy, but Mandelson is suggesting that it is easy. For many people it's not just 'not easy,' it's extremely difficult, and the benefits of moving would be cancelled out by the huge losses incurred by moving.

It'd have to be at least possible.

A move across europe, finding a place to live, the small question of the language, school places for the kids..

..possible for everyone, really?

People on this very messageboard have previously argued that it is easy for anyone to move countries - I remember the phrase was that not everyone's tied to their mother's apron strings.

I don't understand why there was never an outcry over Mandy's third resurrection. He is like the Lord Voldemort. Everytime, you think he's dead, he gets up and walks again.

I mena, he was made a life peer. Wft? It's like Kagan all over again. Arghhhhhhh!

Lord Mandemort.