Yippeeeeeee! Nintendo Wii!
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PieEye said:
Nope, it's just called Wii. So it would be "I'd like a Wii please shopkeeper sir"...
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The Groke said:
Yep, there were even rumours earlier this year that Apple and Ninty may merge...I don't think it's that far fetched in the long term tbbh...
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...don't you need a new HDTV as well, to get the full benefits?
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Kid_Eternity said:
Cool...what was the source of that rumour?
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User 301X/5.1 said:
Erm, it was just rumours (unless you mean who first made it up?), not sure if a conversation was had and over heard or someone credible just got a little excited about the idea...
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Day after my birthday. Although somehow I'm not being bought one. {arents these days *throws arms around in tantrum*ChrisFilter said:Released Dec 8th I believe
Kid_Eternity said:Another Saw the Wii in action on some Sunday prog yesterday, idiot presenter played Wii tennis, must admit it's revitalised my initial enthusiasm for the system.
The control looked spot on (my main concern) and the game looked great fun!
The games in that video look like they'd be fun for a while. However the system is seriously underpowered, and it shows.
While Nintendo developed games will no doubt be fun, cross platform games will no doubt show the machine's technical limits.
E2A: Call Of Duty 3 being an example.
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Jambooboo said:
That's a major concern and criticism of mine (especially about the price) too.
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Jambooboo said:
Yep, in fact I think they may be even making a small profit on the Wii (Chio's right the same is bloody stupid!)...
Crispy
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Since when was power important? If it is important to you, an xbox360 or ps3 will look super shiny.
It's no longer an apples to apples comparison. Nintendo are going after a different market with the Wii. You don't need a monster computer to run nintendogs or brain training, yet these have been two of the best selling games in the last 12 months.
Call of Duty 3? Tell me why I should care about shooting nazis again. There's nothing new in video games any more - they're stuck in a 90's model, selling to young men, with complex controls, long play times and narrow subject matter. I probably won't buy any cross-platform games for the wii, because I know exactly what they'll be like - just like the games I was playing 10 years ago, but shinier.
It's no longer an apples to apples comparison. Nintendo are going after a different market with the Wii. You don't need a monster computer to run nintendogs or brain training, yet these have been two of the best selling games in the last 12 months.
Call of Duty 3? Tell me why I should care about shooting nazis again. There's nothing new in video games any more - they're stuck in a 90's model, selling to young men, with complex controls, long play times and narrow subject matter. I probably won't buy any cross-platform games for the wii, because I know exactly what they'll be like - just like the games I was playing 10 years ago, but shinier.
I guess it depends what type of games you are into...
If you want to be able to play massive, engrossing games, then you're better off getting a PS3 or Xbox 360.
If you want to play 'party' style games with your kid sister and granny for twenty minutes at a time, then you're better of with a Wii.
The main attraction to the Wii seems to be the controller. And while there is nothing to stop either Sony or Microsoft from creating a similar type device, IMO you're never gonna see games like Oblivion and it's ilk on a Wii.
If you want to be able to play massive, engrossing games, then you're better off getting a PS3 or Xbox 360.
If you want to play 'party' style games with your kid sister and granny for twenty minutes at a time, then you're better of with a Wii.
The main attraction to the Wii seems to be the controller. And while there is nothing to stop either Sony or Microsoft from creating a similar type device, IMO you're never gonna see games like Oblivion and it's ilk on a Wii.
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Good, IMO. Playing Oblivion *properly* requires a couple of hundred hours out of my life. Who has that much spare time? I certainly don't. I got so far through that game and then realised I was doing nothing else but play it.Jambooboo said:
It's precisely these reasons that prevent my girlfriend or my parents from playing videogames. They're like a highly specialised sport like skiing or sailing. They requires a hefty initial outlay and a complicated skillset that takes a long time to build up. They tend to form insular communities who devote all their spare time to them, letting the activity define them to some extent.
Not everybody wants to play massive engrossing games. In fact, there will only ever be a minority. Sony and MS are beating each other up (and losing money) over what is actually a very small market. Nintendo is going for the majority, and I'm very pleased.
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Kid_Eternity said:
Xbox 360 = £209.99 / £279.99
PS3 = $499 / $599
Wii = £179.99
I'm with Crispy on this one. I've been playing games for well over 20 years and I am sick to death of shooting nazis. I always used to hate Nintendo, fucking squirrels with flying goggles, but I bought the g/f a DS for her birthday and ended up getting one back at Xmas. For once there is something original going on. Something inventive. Somebody is actually making a bloody effort.
Good for them.
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I'm definitely siding on the Nintendo side of things. I just can't dedicate any length of time to computers games any more. The last time I spent any time on a game was Half-Life and even that was because I was fucking about at uni and had nothing better to do. I want to have fun, and that's what the Wii is catring for. I wanna come back from the pub and play 18 very drunken holes of Wii golf. I wanna kick the crap out of my girlfriend on Wii boxing and I want to look like a twat bowling in my front room.
When I do fancy an engrossing game I'll play Zelda or Metroid as has already been said.
Bored of my games? I'll download one of the hundreds if not thousands of titles available from the Nes, Snes and Gamecube back catalogue that are available online. Chrono-Trigger, Secret of Mana and the Snes version of Mario Kart anyone?! Fuck yeah
When I do fancy an engrossing game I'll play Zelda or Metroid as has already been said.
Bored of my games? I'll download one of the hundreds if not thousands of titles available from the Nes, Snes and Gamecube back catalogue that are available online. Chrono-Trigger, Secret of Mana and the Snes version of Mario Kart anyone?! Fuck yeah
ChrisFilter said:Bored of my games? I'll download one of the hundreds if not thousands of titles available from the Nes, Snes and Gamecube back catalogue that are available online. Chrono-Trigger, Secret of Mana and the Snes version of Mario Kart anyone?! Fuck yeah
You can play Nes and Snes games (and Master System, Megadrive, Mega CD, Gamegear, Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, Gameboy Colour, Wonderswan, Neo Geo, Neo Geo Pocket, Mame, Amiga, Atari ST, PC Engine, N64) already on the original Xbox. It's the only reason I've kept mine.
Nothing stopping people from having a Wii for the fun "party" games, and a 360/PS3 for the graphical epics (except cash). Personally ill be getting all 3. I just wish the Wii was at least hi-def as last gen games look pretty awfull on my TV, even through component cable.
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Crispy said:
Power is important for things like frame rate and draw distance. If either is compromised it can curtail what could be a good game.
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Strawman said:
Yeah I'll probably end up getting atleast two of the three (I happen to still like killing Nazis...)...
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Those things only become a concern when you try to do too much. If frame rate slows down, then draw less complicated geometry. It shouldn't hurt the gameplay. Computers got good enough to entertain us in a zillion different ways a few years ago. Making them better does not make them more entertaining.
PS: I don't want to put down the nazi killing games at all. I'm just pointing out theat their appeal is narrow, if you take the whole population into account.
PS: I don't want to put down the nazi killing games at all. I'm just pointing out theat their appeal is narrow, if you take the whole population into account.
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Kid_Eternity said:
I think the key to things like the draw distance/frame rate is simple - the player should not notice it.
If it is noticable then the complexity of the graphics should be reduced accordingly. If the gamelplay is good enough then the complexity of the graphics is really not that important.
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Jambooboo said:
Of course, you can play them on PC as well but I'm a sucker for ease of use and things looking like they were nicely designed. Emulators can often be really clunky, I assume Nintendo will make it quite slick.
