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Xbox 360 Problem

Why do people buy this console?

It's cheap, but it's absurdly noisy has a level of reliability that would have ashamed British Leyland and their chocolate engined range of cars. Oh, and it's made by cunts too

only the early ones are really noisy

and people buy it coz it plays better then any other console and better games then any other console
 
noisey console can be easily countered by turning tv up a bit.

I can't belive people play at low enough volumes to notice it. I only ever notice it when i turn the thing on for the first time.


dave
 
only the early ones are really noisy

and people buy it coz it plays better then any other console and better games then any other console

The new ones are still noisy mind, considerably noisier than their competitors. It's just a bit crap - something for your living room should aim to be laptop quiet, not overhum everything unless you whack the volume up. Careless design fail.
 
The new ones are still noisy mind, considerably noisier than their competitors. It's just a bit crap - something for your living room should aim to be laptop quiet, not overhum everything unless you whack the volume up. Careless design fail.

no, mine is no more noisy then my laptop. I NEVER notice the noise. My step sons is noisy (his was bought when they first came out)

the thing is, you have issues with M$, and you hate the xbox

thats your problem innit!

the xbox is flawed yes. But it's no way near as bad as you make it out to be
 
Why do people buy this console?

It's cheap, but it's absurdly noisy has a level of reliability that would have ashamed British Leyland and their chocolate engined range of cars. Oh, and it's made by cunts too

1 it's cheap.
2 people still seem to think the ps3 is expensive (asopposed to investing in a system which will die in under a year and may leave you with nothing playable)
3 fanbois
4 no independant review of games of the graphics produced by them which means people think x game is better on y system without it being true.
5 it came out before the others so the back catilouge of games is larger (not better just larger)
6 shonkey ports of xbox games aren't as good as on they are origianl system. (bad button mapping shit grpahics ports etc)
 
no, mine is no more noisy then my laptop. I NEVER notice the noise. My step sons is noisy (his was bought when they first came out)

the thing is, you have issues with M$, and you hate the xbox

thats your problem innit!

the xbox is flawed yes. But it's no way near as bad as you make it out to be

i can only conclude that you have a shit laptop.

I can't hear my laptop fans at all. Even the latest model of xbox is too noisy - my mate's just got the latest model (his third) and it's still the loudest thing in the room, outhumming a 50 inch plasma, no mean feat in itself.
 
bollocks i have an eleite and it's loud as fuck

i can only conclude that you have a shit laptop.

I can't hear my laptop fans at all. Even the latest model of xbox is too noisy - my mate's just got the latest model (his third) and it's still the loudest thing in the room, outhumming a 50 inch plasma, no mean feat in itself.

your both welcome to come round and hear for yourself

mine makes almost no noise. In fact when I turned it on just to check i could hear fuck all.

Like I said before my step sons is noisy!

BTW I have a good laptop
 
your both welcome to come round and hear for yourself

mine makes almost no noise. In fact when I turned it on just to check i could hear fuck all.

Like I said before my step sons is noisy!

BTW I have a good laptop

yeah mine was quite ish when i got it but it get's louder over time and when it's spinning the disk or working hard...

i was taking issue at your new ones aren't loud post... mines less than 6 months old... can't get much newer than that...
 
1 it's cheap.
2 people still seem to think the ps3 is expensive (asopposed to investing in a system which will die in under a year and may leave you with nothing playable)
3 fanbois
4 no independant review of games of the graphics produced by them which means people think x game is better on y system without it being true.
5 it came out before the others so the back catilouge of games is larger (not better just larger)
6 shonkey ports of xbox games aren't as good as on they are origianl system. (bad button mapping shit grpahics ports etc)

1) Yep, this is a real factor

2) I've yet to see a PS3 for under £200...so yeah the PS3 is more expensive...also while a huge pain if your xbox does die within the first year you can get it replaced for free.

3) Hmmm....don't know about that tbh, my (well over 25 years) experience of gaming has taught me fanboism is not limited to any one system, and that there's roughly the same amount hyping up all systems...

4) Fair point but then graphical power isn't as widely different between them as it is between them and the Wii so this really isn't as much of an issue as you seem to be implying.

5) Yeah objectively it does have a bigger number of titles to choose from but the more choice the higher likelyhood of their being a decent number of games.

6) I don't know anyone who cares about backward compatibility. In fact it's never been cited by any of my gaming friends as a bonus for getting one system over another.

7) I'll add a number 7 that you forgot: online gaming. No contest, while it costs money the Xbox beats the PS3 hands down in this area. This was a major deciding factor (along with price) for me getting the 360.
 
1) Yep, this is a real factor

2) I've yet to see a PS3 for under £200...so yeah the PS3 is more expensive...also while a huge pain if your xbox does die within the first year you can get it replaced for free.

3) Hmmm....don't know about that tbh, my (well over 25 years) experience of gaming has taught me fanboism is not limited to any one system, and that there's roughly the same amount hyping up all systems...

4) Fair point but then graphical power isn't as widely different between them as it is between them and the Wii so this really isn't as much of an issue as you seem to be implying.

5) Yeah objectively it does have a bigger number of titles to choose from but the more choice the higher likelyhood of their being a decent number of games.

6) I don't know anyone who cares about backward compatibility. In fact it's never been cited by any of my gaming friends as a bonus for getting one system over another.

7) I'll add a number 7 that you forgot: online gaming. No contest, while it costs money the Xbox beats the PS3 hands down in this area. This was a major deciding factor (along with price) for me getting the 360.
but 7 isn't true ...

I'd add

7 a load of unqualified toss talked about by people who don't own all the systems trying to jusitfy their own purchases if you'd like...;) :D

but the ps3 has online support and gaming it's on a game by game basis but all the function of the XBL system is there (if not the sensible system of account sign ins etc)
 
but 7 isn't true ...

I'd add

7 a load of unqualified toss talked about by people who don't own all the systems trying to jusitfy their own purchases if you'd like...;) :D

but the ps3 has online support and gaming it's on a game by game basis but all the function of the XBL system is there (if not the sensible system of account sign ins etc)

I'm glad you agree with all my points up to number 7 though. ;):D


If I buy an Xbox game with online play I know I can play with everyone on my friends lists. My understanding was that with the PS3 there's no unified friends lists and each game has to offer it's own online set up?
 
but 7 isn't true ...

I'd add

7 a load of unqualified toss talked about by people who don't own all the systems trying to jusitfy their own purchases if you'd like...;) :D

but the ps3 has online support and gaming it's on a game by game basis but all the function of the XBL system is there (if not the sensible system of account sign ins etc)

can you rent HD films on it?
 
can you rent HD films on it?

no, but we can play them natively ;) :p

it's all coming however, in home there's a cinema which currently only has trailers but will allow on release purchase and rental of HD films.

Basically at the moment the PS store is a makeshift thing which they aren't putting time into developing because they have these features adiquately sorted in home and once they finally sort home out and launch it (it's really a case of more content now the lag issues are gone the streaming issues are gone it's just a bit spartan in it's content now) then this will replace the current system.

we are only 2 years in to a 10 year dev cycle for home and it has significantly greater scope than MSLive/Xblox live had at the same point in it's genesis.
 
they are both great machines

I own an xbox and have nothing bad to say about em?

I also think the PS3 is an excellent machine.

the price goes against it, but in relation, it's the same price for an xbox ( I have to buy a wireless connector, a blu ray dvd player) but i don't spend all the money at once.
I prefer the xbox onlly coz I own one ( and that was a freebie) which is what it comes down to for me.

I got my xbox for free so that makes it a better console from my experiance!

plus the back catalogue of games ( but this only applies for maybe 2 or 3 games)

I got a splinter cell game for £7
 
nah they re both gret mahines but different i know theres some die hards who can't accept this (filter i'm looking at you) but it's true...
 
nah they re both gret mahines but different i know theres some die hards who can't accept this (filter i'm looking at you) but it's true...

I read an article the other day that compared the 2 machines 3 times, once when the PS3 first came out, once a year later and one now.
after reading all 3 articles I wanted the author to commit and say which console was better.
He didn't/couldn't.

As for Fillter I without doubt think he knows both machines are quality (he has said many times) I think he just likes to wind up other posters who really don't accept this (tarannau I'm looking at you)
 
As for Fillter I without doubt think he knows both machines are quality (he has said many times) I think he just likes to wind up other posters who really don't accept this (tarannau I'm looking at you)

:D True

Garf, have a look at the poll about consoles owned. You'll see I have no problems admitting that the ps3 is a great machine, just too expensive and too limited a games catalogue (in comparison to the 360) for it to be worth it for me.
 
I read an article the other day that compared the 2 machines 3 times, once when the PS3 first came out, once a year later and one now.
after reading all 3 articles I wanted the author to commit and say which console was better.
He didn't/couldn't.

you can't really...

It's like saying which is better a porsche or a ferrari ... it boils down to personal taste over all the ps3 - thin which will be launched in the next 2 years will bring the cost down imeasureably and as a result will make it a direct competitor to the 360 (at which poitn i expect ms to rush out a 720 or some such with similar build problems but still with a modern version of XBL)

thing that MS has done over sony and what sony still don't get yet is that MS aren't really selling a console they are selling an cut down Operating system in the form of XBL. it's this familarity which will proably ultimately win over people even if it's a bit MS in some of it's functions (and you have to pay to go online and game and all the other shite credits instead of cash amounts on your account etc...) and once the next gen of younger gamers are preconditioned into the MS/XBL way of doing things this is what will stick much like people get currently conditioned into the windows way of doing things. and unlike most people the console market has changed from it being rich kids with new toys or spoddy techies with mech fanstaies to be almost the 3rd essential electrical component after the tv and the dvd player... so the cutlure has massively changed as a result the gaming public at large don't want to learn new ways of doing things and are happy by and large with fancy new icons every so often rather than improvd functionality or a dev's wish list of features.

To a certain extent this has been helped along with the sucess of the wii and really it reenforces the change in gaming from the publics POV.

however i guess we might be at the peak here for gaming in terms of hard ware for a bit as the current economic crisis has hit the gaming world hard with even EA making losses and smaller firms shutting up shop left right and centre so there maybe no need for a tech expansion for some time (and as japans economy is tanking it there might not be one again as the only company to make money ont heir consoles is nintendo who are always reluctant to release new products if the old ones are still selling/making money...)

so i guess this current crisis int he economy if it continues for two long might overly reduce the hardware expansion making the only saleable features the online component which of course will only be of benefit to both systems as it'll lead to a 'live enviroment' arms race which cold be very intresting...

however to go back to the original point they aren't the same it's not possible to pick one and say this is better, neither ofhtem are perfect both have issues...

I'd dispute filters they have a bigger back catoglouge now though this might have been true intially (although MS included all previous xb games as well as the launch titles for the 360 and a hell of a lot of ported ps2 games as their launch range) it certainly isn't now true and as i've said before the jump off will come when dev's decide fuck it were not making a reduced game because we can only limit the data to a single layer dvd format...

MS see it as an Os sale basically, sony as an advertising horading for other sony brand (or approved brand) products one you pay for your online gaming the other is sponsored in the hope of enticing you to buy more stuff is the main difference...

who get's to the convergance of both quickest (currently as i said looking like XBL) will be the one who ultimately wins the console war.

home however will introduce a second life type avatar system which will entice a lot of people on to it (look how popular the wii mii's were and frankly their limtied scope is a touch shite...)
 
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