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Am I right in reading that site? It seems like the UK consumes between at least 20 to 30 gigawatts on a constant basis, that is, at all times of year, under all daylight and weather conditions.

That's a lot of windmills and solar panels.
It’s a live feed. The demand will change through the day.
 
Am I right in reading that site? It seems like the UK consumes between at least 20 to 30 gigawatts on a constant basis, that is, at all times of year, under all daylight and weather conditions.

That's a lot of windmills and solar panels.
It is. The thing about fossil fuels is their amazing energy density. But then every year we probably burn tens of thousands of years of sunlight in the form of hydrocarbons. But that’s also hundreds of thousands of years of CO2 capture released each year.
 
It’s a live feed. The demand will change through the day.

There are dials on the left which show previous demand levels at different intervals into the past, yes?

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Also, this is just electricity. In GB we use about four times as much energy from burning gas directly as we do from the electricity network....
 
It is. The thing about fossil fuels is their amazing energy density. But then every year we probably burn tens of thousands of years of sunlight in the form of hydrocarbons. But that’s also hundreds of thousands of years of CO2 capture released each year.

If only there was an alternative energy source, with a density as good as fossil fuels or better, which didn't produce carbon as part of its fundamental operating principles.
 
If only there was an alternative energy source, with a density as good as fossils or better, which didn't produce carbon as part of its fundamental operating principles.
If only there was a limitless source of clean energy up in the sky....
 
Ah come on. That website looks like it was built in 1999 by a 12 year old. Surely the content should be taken with a pinch of salt :D

Not sure if you're joking, but in case you're not, I suspect the author was more interested in making their case than in showcasing web design.
 
Not sure if you're joking, but in case you're not, I suspect the author was more interested in making their case than in showcasing web design.
I was joking but kinda being serious too. Sites like that are impossible to navigate and find what you're looking for. I'd have to read the whole of the website to discover what it's author's message is. It's like he built the website solely for himself.
He may have valid points but I don't have the time to delve through hundreds of pages to discover them.
 
I was joking but kinda being serious too. Sites like that are impossible to navigate and find what you're looking for. I'd have to read the whole of the website to discover what it's author's message is. It's like he built the website solely for himself.
He may have valid points but I don't have the time to delve through hundreds of pages to discover them.

The whole site is an in-depth look at the energy issues facing the UK with respect to climate change and sustainability. That's never going to be reduced to pithy soundbites, not without losing crucial details. The table of contents is right there on the page I linked, and the nature of their contents should be obvious enough for the most part. Want to find out if it's feasible to power the UK with solar energy? There's a link to that chapter called, appropriately enough, Solar.

Was there any particular bit of information you were looking for? Maybe I can help you find it.
 
The whole site is an in-depth look at the energy issues facing the UK with respect to climate change and sustainability. That's never going to be reduced to pithy soundbites, not without losing crucial details. The table of contents is right there on the page I linked, and the nature of their contents should be obvious enough for the most part. Want to find out if it's feasible to power the UK with solar energy? There's a link to that chapter called, appropriately enough, Solar.

Was there any particular bit of information you were looking for? Maybe I can help you find it.
Not particularly, but if he thinks it isn't feasible to run the UK on renewables, then maybe an article titled "Why it isn't feasible to run the UK on renewables" or something along those lines.

I'm not looking for soundbites but life is too short to read page upon page of how the moon affects the tides, before ever finding anything of interest.
 
Not particularly, but if he thinks it isn't feasible to run the UK on renewables, then maybe an article titled "Why it isn't feasible to run the UK on renewables" or something along those lines.

I'm not looking for soundbites but life is too short to read page upon page of how the moon affects the tides, before ever finding anything of interest.

Perhaps you could set aside the time to read the relevant chapter on this pressing topic, "Can we live on renewables?" It's ten rather short pages, I'd say about equivalent to a detailed news article.
 
Perhaps you could set aside the time to read the relevant chapter on this pressing topic, "Can we live on renewables?" It's ten rather short pages, I'd say about equivalent to a detailed news article.
I didn't even see the link on the page :D :facepalm:

See, that's the problem. The information is there but the silly text/background colours prevent you from finding it :D (that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it)
 
I didn't even see the link on the page :D :facepalm:

See, that's the problem. The information is there but the silly text/background colours prevent you from finding it :D (that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it)

I feel I must correct you slightly, the infeasibility of renewables as a total solution is my own opinion from reading the chapter, not an explicit conclusion made by the author (that's the "without hot air" part). He only points out exactly what this country would need to accept/be prepared to do in order for a totally renewable energy economy to work.

It could be done, but I think the implications would be unacceptable to most people in the UK. Renewables have a terrible energy density and this results in a huge footprint.
 
Perhaps you could set aside the time to read the relevant chapter on this pressing topic, "Can we live on renewables?" It's ten rather short pages, I'd say about equivalent to a detailed news article.
I do actually agree with what he's saying there, especially regarding PV panels. PV panels are a shit idea for somewhere like the UK, with about 3 days of sunlight a year, and their environmental cost makes them not worth considering, IMO. Wind and water are our only real options, and they'd have to be supplemented with power from something else or somewhere else.
 
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