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Wu Ming

Discussion in 'books, films, TV, radio & writing' started by eoin_k, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. eoin_k

    eoin_k Lawyer's fees, beetroot and music Enforced Holiday

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    Members of the Wu Ming project, the collective behind 54 are speaking about their new book Manituana at the ICA this evening.

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    This collective overlap with the Luther project, who wrote Q

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    Link:

    http://www.ica.org.uk/Wu%20Ming+21765.twl
     
  2. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

  3. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Nice one Butchers -will check that later.

    I saw Wu-Ming last year at Cafe OTO in London - a nice evening of talk, readings, discussion and video clips.
     
  4. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    They're coming back in the next few weeks because Altai, the sequel to Q has finally been published in English.
     
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  5. Santino

    Santino lovelier than lovely

    Paperback?
     
  6. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Not yet - but can get hb for 12 quid free P&P here - ebook on way significantly cheaper. At which point it will be pirated everywhere anyway. As they would like it i suspect.
     
  7. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Yeah they've often stuck their novels on their own website for free anyway and used to send out emails saying where people could get them for pennies...

    There's usually a paperback eventually too.

    I've not read the last one yet. :oops:
     
  8. gawkrodger

    gawkrodger Well-Known Member

  9. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    5. Timeless Earth by Peter Kolosimo
    6. Spaceships in Prehistory by Peter Kolosimo
    7. Not of this World by Peter Kolosimo
    8. Brothers of Infinity by Peter Kolosimo
    anyone read any of these?
     
  10. Fedayn

    Fedayn Well-Known Member

    Can anyone give me a run down of what Wu Ming are?
     
  11. gawkrodger

    gawkrodger Well-Known Member

    very simple version - 4 Italian autonomists and anarchos who write very good novels and (seperatly) political analysis on Italy
     
  12. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    Has anyone read Altai yet? I am going to buy it. I loved Q. I still think of it years after I read it.

    I haven't read 54. Something about it doesn't quite appeal, but I imagine I will at some point. I would really quite like to read the story one of them did about David Bowie taking a Red Army Faction turn in the 70s as well. I love the idea of Wu Ming. Here is a quote by them:

     
  13. Divisive Cotton

    Divisive Cotton Now I just have my toy soldiers

    They are speaking with Stewart Home at the ICA this Saturday: http://www.ica.org.uk/?lid=37787

    Gotta get a ticket to this. Gonna go Fozzie? Trying to get in touch with Carl about but he's yet to return my call

    It says "£10 / £8 Concessions / £7 ICA Members" but the booking form says £5
     
  14. Divisive Cotton

    Divisive Cotton Now I just have my toy soldiers

  15. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    54 was still very good but expects you to know a bit about the ins and outs of international communism, the italian and balkan resistances and various other things in a way that Q didn't. Q allowed you to read today into the past through it's distance whereas 54 was literally about now. Anyway, you've still got Manituana to read yet as well - which is sort of inbetween the previous two in terms of setting. The Bowie (Havana Glam) thing isn't a RAF turn btw, it's a third-worldist Cuba/latin american turn. Not seen it translated anywhere yet but easy enough to find on the web in italian.
     
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  16. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Downloaded that Manituana and had a skim of the start but not got round to it yet.
     
  17. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Will see. Good idea!
     
  18. gawkrodger

    gawkrodger Well-Known Member

    I've bought Altai but am re-reading Q first before starting it
     
  19. shifting gears

    shifting gears Well-Known Member

    Cheers for this, recently grabbed a copy of 54 but it's still on the shelf, I'll investigate the others first, I reckon.
     
  20. Santino

    Santino lovelier than lovely

    I started Manituana but got sidetracked and never finished it. Does it pick up in the second half at all?
     
  21. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit


    no.

    I've not read it or anything.
     
  22. gawkrodger

    gawkrodger Well-Known Member

    Was great (if short due to Verso fucking up his train tickets) in Brum

    Would really recommend people go to the ICA event tomorrow
     
  23. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Oops sorry missed it. thought it was this evening cos of the thread title?!

    Will try and get a mod to change it.
     
  24. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Yes tonight!!!! But being recorded via digital media for the later perusal of people and that.

    edit: no, this aft
     
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  25. Divisive Cotton

    Divisive Cotton Now I just have my toy soldiers

    Glad I went. He talked about both their writing process and the politics behind the stories. It feels like its national old bill overtime day in central London
     
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  26. Divisive Cotton

    Divisive Cotton Now I just have my toy soldiers

    he was saying in the talk that it is being marketed as a sequel in Britain but really it is a spin-off rather than Q: Return With Vengeance
     
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  27. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Thanks mods, and thanks others for the reports!
     
  28. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

  29. sunnysidedown

    sunnysidedown Well-Known Member

    Just listened to the interview with them on novaramedia.com - really insightful stuff.
     
  30. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Had the same problem.

    Started it and haven't got around to finish it.
     

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