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wow, cardiff's changing

what pays for cardiff these days? wheres the money come from?? all the industry/docks is pretty well gone i am guessing so is it all taffia / civil service stuff? and is all that stuff really there to stay?
 
there's quite a large financial services presence, but not on the scale of Bristol.

And lots and lots and lots and lots of shopping
 
Yep: Cardiff's shops have a huge catchment area, from the city itself and from the valleys - and then there's all the Welsh Assembly stuff.

I imagine income from tourism, entertainment and corporate hospitality must be pretty substantial too.
 
what pays for cardiff these days? wheres the money come from?? all the industry/docks is pretty well gone i am guessing so is it all taffia / civil service stuff? and is all that stuff really there to stay?

'Taffia' denotes the traditional English-speaking Welsh Labour establishment, if you're referring to the Welsh-speaking middle-class/media types the historic term is 'crachach'.

Of course, both terms are complete bullshit!

I'd say the drivers for economic growth in Cardiff come from massive expansion of the service sector and retail, media (largest UK media centre outside London), financial services, public sector growth linked to devolution, and tourism/sporting events. It's a pretty mixed economy.
 
'Taffia' denotes the traditional English-speaking Welsh Labour establishment, if you're referring to the Welsh-speaking middle-class/media types the historic term is 'crachach'.
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I've heard it used to describe the crachach, tbf - and the labour establishment as just 'the mafia'

Anyway, the 'taffia' iz the welsh italians.


"Welsh 'Call My Bluff'

TAFFIA.

Is it

a) the English speaking Labour establishment?

b) the Welsh speaking media class?

c) the Welsh Italians?

Over to you, Frank Muir...."
 
Granted, I'm not a 'shops' person, but I wasn't knocked out by it - it is nice, but seems on a relatively small awkward footprint.

And can you buy a pigs head there for £2.50, like in the central market? No. I rest my case.
 
i hadnt been to cardiff since the early 90s until recently. have to say the one thing that i noticed, was how little proper old-style boozers you have in the city centre, compared to previously. its all walkabouts, wetherspoons and faux-classy wine bars. seem to have lost a bit of it's soul to me.
 
'Taffia' denotes the traditional English-speaking Welsh Labour establishment, if you're referring to the Welsh-speaking middle-class/media types the historic term is 'crachach'.

Of course, both terms are complete bullshit!

I'd say the drivers for economic growth in Cardiff come from massive expansion of the service sector and retail, media (largest UK media centre outside London), financial services, public sector growth linked to devolution, and tourism/sporting events. It's a pretty mixed economy.

ok cheers for clarification but arn't Labour in power in Wales?
 
i hadnt been to cardiff since the early 90s until recently. have to say the one thing that i noticed, was how little proper old-style boozers you have in the city centre, compared to previously. its all walkabouts, wetherspoons and faux-classy wine bars. seem to have lost a bit of it's soul to me.

Ahh I think it's a decent mix. You have all that shit down St. Mary's street, but you've still got The Vulcan, The Traders, The City Arms, The Rummer etc.
 
i hadnt been to cardiff since the early 90s until recently. have to say the one thing that i noticed, was how little proper old-style boozers you have in the city centre, compared to previously. its all walkabouts, wetherspoons and faux-classy wine bars. seem to have lost a bit of it's soul to me.

There are definitely fewer than there used to be.
But you can still find some. The ones Drachir said plus the Goat Major, Dempseys (does that count? it feels like it should), hmmmm... can' think of many more. The Cottage on St Mary St's OK. That Brains pub at the bottom of Cathedral Rd. The Old Arcade. Used to be many more, I'd say.
 
Ok, now why don't we discuss what a city centre could be like if it wasn't simply designed to stupefy people into opening their wallets.
 
The modern art thing has started to take shape outside the library. So far looks like a giant javelin has gone astray and landed there. It's going to glow in the dark apparently. There's a big circular bit going to be erected also. It was in the Echo last night - couldn't make head nor tail of it myself. They mentioned a canal.
 
there's a canal under there apparently and the idea is that the ring element will rise and fall with the tide.
wants to work at £1.5million! :eek:

under the pavement the beach! :) YOU CAPITALIST MOTHERFUCKERS! :mad:
 
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