would you live around loughbourough junction?

[hatz]

Does the sun ever shine around LJ? I ask because on each visit I've ever made there the weather's always been dull and overcast. It's like it exists in some wierd extra dimension or something...

Oh my god, that's so true!! It's always raining/overcast there. But when you're on the train, going through, it's not always. Very odd.

Around the actual station I don't think it is very nice at all, but you can walk under five mins and it's a lot nicer. Transport wise, it's pretty good, Brixton/Denmark Hill stations are close, depending which side you're on, lots of buses, LJ station. It's just a bit grim in parts but it won't be like that forever.

 

[poster342002]

Like it or not, young professionals moving into an area is usually good for that area, it also means that there's nice bars and shops and other distractions

It also means that rents and property prices quickly go right up through the roof, forcing out the local working-class population.

 

[fanta]

I've lived 'around' LJ for 5 years now and I love living here.

I'm bringing up my two kids here. It's really friendly - I know more than half the people on my street, something that's never happened before in London, and they're all really nice.

Ruskin Park is small but a very nice green space, and is being done up at the moment (public lavatories, bandstand, changing rooms for sports etc). Great playground and paddling pool for kids, always full of friends to play with. Tennis courts, football pitches, a cricket wicket, duck pond, ornamental gardens, 'wilderness' areas, a nature walk.

It's less than a mile to Brixton Tube (just, but it is), plus 4 buses run there if you're really lazy.

And LJ Thameslink is not perfect by any means but will get you into town in 20 minutes, or further afield if you want... (except on Sunday afternoons...). And it's got a cafe where you can get a cuppa while you wait.

The 35 and 345 buses run 24 hour, so you can get home from most parts of town that way too if you need.

The newish 'Kashmir Halal' shop does decent quality/price vegetables (and meat too if you're not fussy), and is open late too; there are any number of 'convenience' stores, some even quite well stocked. Yeahman Garage has always done good cheap work for me. Phillips (on Loughborough Road) is a damn fine butcher. The Cambria is an decent pub. Zest of India do a good value Biryani. The Red Gate Gallery does fun things occasionally (although I might be a bit out of date now?).

Yes it's a bit run down, yes 'regeneration' is proceeding slowly if at all, yes the Harriers has been a (disgraceful) hole in the ground for nearly 2 years now, yes pubs are in short supply,yes there are still several boarded up shop fronts which is a waste; but there is new social housing being built behind the petrol station on Hinton Road, the Green Man and Warrior *are* being re-developed, the Warrior as a pub which will be excellent, there are plans for more housing behind the Warrior, all of which should bring more people and therefore hopefully businesses into the area.

Up the Junction!

Indeed. In other words, no better or worse than Brixton.

 

[Structaural]

if you lived on e.g. southwell rd (behind coldharbour lane at the camberwell end) can you cut through the hospital to get to denmark hill station?

I lived on Southwell Road (opposite Charlie Chaplin's storage place) from 1982 to 1986 - it's a lovely leafy road. Short walk to Ruskin Park, you can walk up to the end of Southwell to get to Herne Hill Road. You have to get back on Coldharbour Lane to get to Denmark Hill (or walk through Ruskin Park) and cut through a carpark. But loughboro' junction is served by the Thameslink to Blackfriars and beyond.

It's no worse than anywhere else in Brixton/Camberwell. It's what you're used to I say. I feel safer there than anywhere else 'cos it was once my 'manor'

Good pubs - near to Camberwell, big gardens in Southwell Rd, served by the 35 and 45 bus and P4 (not sure about that now). Fuck the tube. 15 min walk to Brixton (through Loughboro' Estate and down Gresham road). Good dentist on the corner.

 

[Structaural]

But there are pubs very near to the area - albeit about ten minutes walk at the most, which is probably the same length of time many take to go to the boozer anywhere. There is a very decent cafe opposite what used to be the Green Man. The shops are just the same as other shops in central Brixton. The nearest tube is only several minutes by bus and there are overland rail links to Blackfriars & Herne Hill.

Of course, there is plenty of poverty and deprivation in the area so that might give you a rock to throw at the people who live there I suppose...

...and I guess it does suffer from the peaceful and sophisticated atmosphere enjoyed by those lucky dwellers of the Barrier Block and Somerleighton Road.

 

[Structaural]

Not true! The SEM caff, just off Herne Hill Road, near that taxi garage does the best fry up I have ever tasted. ?

yup, my mum still goes on about that cafe and she moved to Tulse Hill 20 years ago

 

[Structaural]

So you don't want to see your area going up in the world? Like it or not, young professionals moving into an area is usually good for that area, it also means that there's nice bars and shops and other distractions - which is something that is important for me to have locally. I'm sure many people on here would agree with me.

Culture? I really like about Peckham that there are so many different cultures around, I like to learn about how different types of people live and I have travelled to the carribean and to africa for the same reason. Since living in peckham Ive tried different cuisines made friends with different types of people and generally widened my horizons. Is that such a bad thing to like?

Why don't you like my motivations? I'm stepping onto the property ladder and I want to make a good investment - is that so heinous? Or are you just jealous that you aren't in the same lucky position that I am?

wot a wanker

 

[gracious]

wot a wanker

scuse me? problem with something i said?

 

[PacificOcean]

scuse me? problem with something i said?

This is a local shop for local people.............

 

[gracious]

It also means that rents and property prices quickly go right up through the roof, forcing out the local working-class population

and bestowing wealth on the local working class population that owns property there. my bf's parents bought their house in peckham in the 1950s when they came over from jamaica to work as a nurse and a factory worker. now their house is worth half a million and they will retire in style.

on top of that, if i spend my young prof. £'s in the local african guys fruit shop, then he's doing well as a result of me being there (and i do - i did say that i wanted to move to an area with a local economy worth supporting).

its not like young professionals are moving in, raping your women and burning down your houses ffs

 

[gracious]

This is a local shop for local people.............

 

[PacificOcean]

Quote from the League of Gentlemen.

 

[gracious]

oh right, the one where local people are really horrible to new-comers that enter the shop cos the local people are weird and strange and scary?



safe.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

i always felt it was kinda the no mans land between brixton and camberwell

but i used to go through it everyday to get to school so it never felt much diffrent than brixton if a lot quieter

 

[poster342002]

and bestowing wealth on the local working class population that owns property there.

And what about the local working class population that doesn't own property?

 

[twister]

And what about the local working class population that doesn't own property?

chase them all out with pitchforks, thats what I say!

 

[Structaural]

scuse me? problem with something i said?

yeah, most of it. Yuppiedom is a celebrated lifestyle now is it? Something to be proud of. Maybe the local residents don't want 'another fucking winebar' or for you to bestow your fabulous wealth upon them...

Most people I knew in LJ could never afford to buy and were forced out by council's wanting to cash in on their properties. But that's nothing to do with you, you're just reaping the benefits.

yeah I am bitter

 

[gracious]

is a celebrated lifestyle now is it? Something to be proud of.

yeah, i worked hard, i saved, then i scrimped and bunked the train and lived at my mums while i got my degree. then i worked 50-60 hour weeks for 2 years, and now i finally got a promotion that means i can afford to buy a place of my own.

worth popping the odd bottle of champers for if you ask me... if im reaping the benefits of anything its my own hard work...

and i dont buy the council house sob story either - i contribute my fair share of tax whilst using very few government services. its people like me that keep unfortunate souls that need it in council housing in the first place....

i'd let go of that bitterness if i was you - it wont get you anywhere in life.

 

[poster342002]

Oh, dear it's one of those "up by my own bootstraps" "got on me bike" types. Yawn.

 

[gracious]

Oh, dear it's one of those "up by my own bootstraps" "got on me bike" types. Yawn.

better than one of those "i like to bitch at people who are more succesful than me because it makes me feel less like a waste of space" types

 

[brixtonvilla]

*pulls up chair, makes popcorn*

 

[poster342002]

*pulls up chair, makes popcorn*

You'll have to wait a long time for the show, because I really can't be bothered getting involved with such a pointless discourse.

 

[gracious]

I really can't be bothered getting involved

probably cant be bothered getting involved with a job and paying your own rent either....

 

[aurora green]

probably cant be bothered getting involved with a job and paying your own rent either....

I'm kind of hoping you stay in Peckham now, as well.

 

[poster342002]

probably cant be bothered getting involved with a job and paying your own rent either....

Lots of people have jobs, but find they still don't earn enough to even pay for the rent on a bedsit. Is this their own fault, I suppose? Or are you now going to come out with the latterday version of "let them eat cake" - "Get A Higher Paid Job"?

 

[Mrs Magpie]

I'm hoping to get a transfer to LJ. It's nowhere near as bad as it was years ago.

What are you implying? Mrs M leaves and house prices rocket?
I used to live there until a few years ago.

 

[gracious]

come out with the latterday version of "let them eat cake" - "Get A Higher Paid Job

not at all, it wasnt me starting a fight on this thread, i was merely asking what an area was like because i thought i might move there - you're the one having a go at my lifestyle.

so there.

 

[gracious]

I'm kind of hoping you stay in Peckham now, as well.

i honestly cant get over you 2... here i am mildly asking a question about whether its a good area to buy in, for investment and for living purposes and you both decide to have a pop at my lifestyle....

its not like im an evil mugger or a peadophile or something - you seem to be all having a go at me for not being on the breadline, and seem to be overly proud of the fact that you are.

im not going to apologise for being succesful, maybe you guys would have happier lives if you dropped the attitude that being succesful is a bad thing.

 

[trashpony]

i honestly cant get over you 2... here i am mildly asking a question about whether its a good area to buy in, for investment and for living purposes and you both decide to have a pop at my lifestyle....

its not like im an evil mugger or a peadophile or something - you seem to be all having a go at me for not being on the breadline, and seem to be overly proud of the fact that you are.

im not going to apologise for being succesful, maybe you guys would have happier lives if you dropped the attitude that being succesful is a bad thing.

You're equating success with making money. I think you could have worded your posts a bit better tbh.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

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