DaveCinzano
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Would you go to an airshow?
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mauvais
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I went to the Paris Airshow this year (photos) and didn't find it that interesting, except for one of the first flights of the A380 which was worth the trouble. Having said that, a few moments were quite spectacular, such as the Eurocopter Tiger doing a loop-the-loop, some of the Mirages turning circles, and as ever the Eurofighter's acrobatics. Overall though the displays seemed patchy and short.
I miss the old BAe Family Days
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Spion
I hear ya
dirtysanta said:
errr.....for the same reason I support the England footbal team and not another country. Im English.
You're just saying the smae thing in a different way.I'm English too, but there's plenty of arseholes in England so I find it difficult to get hard about the concept of England.
I just wondered if there were any thought processes that occurred between seeing something English/British and your hairs standing on end?
I've never been to an airshow but then I've never needed to - I grew up near Warton so often saw Jaguars, Tornadoes and so on practising for shows. Last time I was there it was the Eurofighter's turn - quite nerve-wracking as it seems very unwieldy compared to the Tornado and watching it dive straight for the ground you can't believe it will be able to pull out of it!
dirtysanta
Original Casual
Spion said:
I'm English too, but there's plenty of arseholes in England so I find it difficult to get hard about the concept of England.
Plenty of arseholes all over the world mate. The British dont have the monopoly on being cocks. I find it quite sad that,for someone who's English, you seem to have derogatory opinion of the British Public. The arseholes are certainly in the minority and I fail to to understand why a few pricks should stop me being patriotic
Moreover, what the fuck have these few arseholes got to do with me being blown away by the Harrier?
Spion
I hear ya
dirtysanta said:
I don't have a derogatory opinion of the British public - well no more than any other public. You're right, there are arseholes everywhere.
I still don't get it tho - are there any thought processes between seeing something English/British and your hairs standing on end?
dirtysanta
Original Casual
Spion said:
Yup.
Thought process: "Fuck me, theres a 12 tonne jet fighter, with its engine at full tilt hovering 200 feet in front of me and 100 feet off the ground. Its loud, its fucking impressive and the pilot just manouvred it to "bow" to the crowd.
mauvais
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Why not? I agree with them, and I'm not patriotic.Spion said:
If you in any way bemoan the loss of aerospace engineering from Britain - and given that BAE Systems no longer has any particular wish to make planes - then it seems entirely reasonable to have an adoration for one of the final pieces of really special and inspiring British engineering.
Bigdavalad
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oneflewover said:
Remember when I was a kid, back in the dark and dank resesses of time, going on holiday to Scotland with my mum and dad. We were driving up this hill one afternoon, when a Tornado came over the hill the other way. It was low enough to be able to see the pilot clearly in the cockpit - can't have been anymore than 30 or 40 feet up. Fucking loud and very, very impressive.
Also went to Lake Vrnwy (sp?) in Wales once and saw a pair of F-15s go over so low they were setting car alarms off in the visitors car park.
Spion
I hear ya
mauvais mangue said:
I do admire such things. It's just that when I see them and my hairs stand on end I don't think patriotic thoughts. DirtySanta said he was spurred to patriotic thoughts by such things, and, not understanding it, was keen to find out what took him from nodding Harrier to thinking of England in such a way.
mauvais
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They didn't exactly say that though, to be fair:Spion said:
"The best bit is when the pride of British engineering, Harrier Jumpjet..." (true)
"hovers just infront of the crowd and takes a little bow. makes the hairs on ya arm stand up" (true)
"very british...very good" (true)
I have a video somewhere of a Harrier doing a little bow and then crashing into the sea. I'll dig it out when I get chance.
Incidentally I saw a Tornado coming down in Blackpool - it also crashed into the sea. I still don't know how I knew it was going to crash, since I didn't see the actual impact - it was miles away. I was only about ten! I heard a huge bang which turned out to be the ejector seats (they both survived), and noone believed me when I insisted it had crashed, until it was on the Northern news later
moremauvais mangue said:Incidentally I saw a Tornado coming down in Blackpool - it also crashed into the sea. I still don't know how I knew it was going to crash, since I didn't see the actual impact - it was miles away. I was only about ten! I heard a huge bang which turned out to be the ejector seats (they both survived), and noone believed me when I insisted it had crashed, until it was on the Northern news later
!One of my recurring dreams is seeing a plane crash - don't know why. (I probably shouldn't have admitted it as no doubt means something very embarrassing...)
mauvais
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It turned out to be caused by foreign object debris (FOD) - something like a pen or loose bolt where it shouldn't have been. This jammed up the control surfaces on the tail and put it into a spin. The co-pilot thought the pilot was just messing about!dormouse said:more
One of my recurring dreams is seeing a plane crash - don't know why. (I probably shouldn't have admitted it as no doubt means something very embarrassing...)
Here's that Harrier vid - it was hovering at an airshow and about to do the bow when the engines went titsup and well, see for yourself
Edit: may have to do 'save as'
Spion
I hear ya
mauvais mangue said:They didn't exactly say that though, to be fair:
"The best bit is when the pride of British engineering, Harrier Jumpjet..." (true)
"hovers just infront of the crowd and takes a little bow. makes the hairs on ya arm stand up" (true)
"very british...very good" (true)
I have a video somewhere of a Harrier doing a little bow and then crashing into the sea. I'll dig it out when I get chance.
Incidentally I saw a Tornado coming down in Blackpool - it also crashed into the sea. I still don't know how I knew it was going to crash, since I didn't see the actual impact - it was miles away. I was only about ten! I heard a huge bang which turned out to be the ejector seats (they both survived), and noone believed me when I insisted it had crashed, until it was on the Northern news later
To be fair DS didn't dispute that I'd characterised his feelings as patriotism. I asked him: "Wow, a patriot. I'm intrigued cos I just don't get it. Why did the Harrier being British do this to you?"
To which he replied:
"errr.....for the same reason I support the England footbal team and not another country. Im English."
I should start an 'are you a patriot?' poll as I really don't get the causal link between seeing a good plane, for eg, and getting surges of patriotism. A good bit of engineering is a good bit of engineering in my book, no matter where it's from.
mr steev
magic thought wizard
I was dragged to a fair few when I was a kid. Really dull imo.
It does amaze me how some of the aircraft can get off the ground, let alone fly... for about a minute, and I'm sure that it takes incredible skill to be a Red Arrows pilot, but from the ground it's just smoke in the air that I've seen dozens of times before.
I'd rather be in bed or down the pub.
It does amaze me how some of the aircraft can get off the ground, let alone fly... for about a minute, and I'm sure that it takes incredible skill to be a Red Arrows pilot, but from the ground it's just smoke in the air that I've seen dozens of times before.
I'd rather be in bed or down the pub.
john x
Well-Known Member
I had to tick .....
'Other' as I inadvertantly saw the Paris Air show this year when I got stuck in traffic for two hours on the way to Charles de Gaulle.
Nothing to do but sit and watch all these planes doing stunks over the airfield and the motorway. It was a bit leary watching civil aircraft doing stuff they would never do with passengers in. And the new Airbus is HUGE. (as some wag said '-the worlds biggest aircrash waiting to happen!')
john x
'Other' as I inadvertantly saw the Paris Air show this year when I got stuck in traffic for two hours on the way to Charles de Gaulle.
Nothing to do but sit and watch all these planes doing stunks over the airfield and the motorway. It was a bit leary watching civil aircraft doing stuff they would never do with passengers in. And the new Airbus is HUGE. (as some wag said '-the worlds biggest aircrash waiting to happen!')
john x
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
A relative asked if they could take me to an airshow when I was little, but they said no, because they clearly remembered this...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/witness/september/6/newsid_4219000/4219540.stm
I can't say I was bothered though, I don't think it's my kind of thing. I always chose to go to the Natural History Museum if I was asked.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/witness/september/6/newsid_4219000/4219540.stm
I can't say I was bothered though, I don't think it's my kind of thing. I always chose to go to the Natural History Museum if I was asked.
