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Would you give up your seat to a woman with a Baby on Board badge?

Badgers said:
I do keep an eye peeled for elderly, pregnant, disabled people and would give up my seat. Perhaps it is my British politeness but there is a 'no mans land' for me of people 45-55 (ish) that sometimes seem like they could use a seat but I do not want to insult them.
Innit, though my age range is up to 65 (retirement age). But then of course sometimes that involves people whose age I'm not sure of, and I sit there the whole time worrying that I should be getting up for them but petrified I'll insult them. :rolleyes: :o

Same with women who could be in the fairly early stages of pregnancy, or could just be a little round around the stomach area.

I get so much tube related angst. :o

I'd get up for a woman with a badge like that if I noticed it.
 
drag0n said:
I'd wear a mobility impaired badge. Not being pregnant and also not being visibly disabled. Sometimes I need to use the seats nearest the driver/door and I just know people are thinking I'm an inconsiderate lazy bitch if I'm not the first to jump up when someone less able looking than me gets on. I actually get quite worried about it as when I'm not well my coherance goes out of the window and I doubt I'd be able to explain if ever someone did tell me to get up.

Got to agree with a need for that. I have recurring back problems and though I look young and fit at times I really need my seat. Two weeks ago I was coming back from the doctor and even though it was obvious I could barely walk and my boyfriend practically carried me on to the train I got the dirtiest look from an elderly woman because I sat on the seat nearest the door that she was aiming for. Even though she could walk without bother and I was evidently in pain and there were several seats available in the centre of the carraige.:(
 
If they haven't got a visible bump, do they need to sit down?? (Any more than anyone else.)

I've not been pregnant so I don't know.
 
zoooo said:
If they haven't got a visible bump, do they need to sit down?? (Any more than anyone else.)

I've not been pregnant so I don't know.


Depends.

The smell and movement on public transport could easily set me off with the morning sickness and dizzyness. Then I would really feel that I needed to sit down so i didn't fall over, it was also easier to focus winning the fight with my stomach sitting down.

I wouldn't have automatically demanded a seat at that stage though. Only when I felt shite enough that i needed one. An announcement to seated people that i was pregnant and felt dizzy never failed to get me a seat.
 
toggle said:
An announcement to seated people that i was pregnant and felt dizzy never failed to get me a seat.

I think most people are happy to respond, contrary to the image of Londoners as cold-hearted and selfish people.

The badges mean well, but they do come across as the equivalent of one of those baby on board stickers you can get for your car. I would feel a bit ridiculous wearing one, tbh.

I'd happily give up my seat to someone who needed it – but would prefer to be asked rather than be expected to notice a badge.
 
toggle said:
Depends.

The smell and movement on public transport could easily set me off with the morning sickness and dizzyness. Then I would really feel that I needed to sit down so i didn't fall over, it was also easier to focus winning the fight with my stomach sitting down.

I wouldn't have automatically demanded a seat at that stage though. Only when I felt shite enough that i needed one. An announcement to seated people that i was pregnant and felt dizzy never failed to get me a seat.

Oh gawd, I hadn't even thought of that. I just assumed the whole sitting down thing was because the bump was heavy. This pregnancy lark doesn't sound much fun. at. all.
 
zoooo said:
Oh gawd, I hadn't even thought of that. I just assumed the whole sitting down thing was because the bump was heavy. This pregnancy lark doesn't sound much fun. at. all.


it's particularly bad when you're next to someone that has doused themselves in so much perfume or aftershave that you feel like you're going to choke on it, or on those hot summer days when everyone has rank armpits.
 
toggle said:
it's particularly bad when you're next to someone that has doused themselves in so much perfume or aftershave that you feel like you're going to choke on it.

Oh yeah... there's a particular type of Lynx spray that makes me retch :(

I'd also like to see a ban on wearing Cacharel Loulou perfume in enclosed spaces :mad:
 
EastEnder said:
Is that what they mean by the "Lynx effect"?

:cool:


yeah, the woman with morning sickness decorates your clothing from her last meal of ice cream and pickled cuecumbers.
 
toggle said:
yeah, the woman with morning sickness decorates your clothing from her last meal of ice cream and pickled cuecumbers.
You don't need to be suffering from morning sickness to experience that Lynx effect.
 
waverunner said:
You don't need to be suffering from morning sickness to experience that Lynx effect.


yeah, but when you're already really nauseous,on a very regular basis i had days when i couldn't keep down anything other than water and it was a constant fight to do that, ti's a lot easier to focus on not loosing what little you have tried to eat or drink if you can grab a seat and relax a little.
 
I have a friend who's a lecturer and regularly had to leave while she was lecturing to barf - throughout both her pregnancies :eek:
 
toggle said:
yeah, but when you're already really nauseous,on a very regular basis i had days when i couldn't keep down anything other than water and it was a constant fight to do that, ti's a lot easier to focus on not loosing what little you have tried to eat or drink if you can grab a seat and relax a little.
I wasn't making light of morning sickness/having a go :confused:

Just saying Lynx is horrible :)
 
waverunner said:
Just saying Lynx is horrible :)
But what about that advert with Ben Affleck and his woman counting clicky thing???? :eek:

Don't tell me TV has been lying all these years?!?!?! :eek:

I'm in shock. :(
 
Rollem said:
but, given that most commuters dont look up from their books etc, to notice a pregnant lady, i dont see how they would notice a badge - unless it flashes and plays "sit down" by james

:D :D

Does a MAT B1 certificate have to be shown in order to get one of these badges? I know some train companies offer benefits for expectant mothers but manage to deny the blaggers by requesting proof of pregnancy :)
 
Skate said:
:D :D

Does a MAT B1 certificate have to be shown in order to get one of these badges? I know some train companies offer benefits for expectant mothers but manage to deny the blaggers by requesting proof of pregnancy :)

Nah, you just ask for them, no MAT B1 needed. The whole scheme is going to be abused by every pot-bellied lady in London ;)
 
I'm getting on in years, but I'd give up my seat to anyone in more need of it.

[/derail]
My new neighbour rang my bell on Saturday to ask if I'd move my car so she could illegally drive across the pavement onto the hard standing in front of her house. There was a place in front of my car which wasn't there when I parked, plus a bus-sized one in front of my house ....

So there I was - a middle-aged fat bloke and this scrap of a girl and her hard-looking mate tells me "I need to park right outside my door because I have a small son" :confused: :confused:

I wish I could have thought of a witty repost instead of slamming the door ....
(something like "well I had sod all to do with that" )

As it happens she managed to squeeze past my car ....

TBH I've yet to see any evidence of a child.

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Great idea for being able to identify the portly from the pregnant.

It has happened to me on a couple of occassions...and yes, sometimes it is difficult to tell the two apart...
 
I always give up my seat to someone who needs it more, however you have to be sensitive about it. For example, lots of older men who are clearly having trouble standing up feel humiliated by being offered a seat by a woman (I've had the experience of men refusing the seat even though they obviously needed it).

On such occasions the decent thing to do IMO is to get up without offering them your seat as though you enjoy standing or need to move down to bus to look at some fascinating thing outside, allowing them to take the seat without obviously being offered it. Obviously if there's a bus / train full of desperate commuters this may not work as some other person will grab the seat first.

Then there's the issue of the many people who have no obvious disability but who need a seat more then anyone else.

I'm really feeling very well now, but when I was really ill with fibromyalgia and hypermobillity syndrome, or even with asthma, it would have helped a lot to have a badge of some sort as to everyone else I looked young and healthy. There were times when I was on a bus and in a lot of pain and if the bus stopped suddenly while I was standing I dislocated the joints in my knees, hips and shoulders which was really painful.

I ended seeing my GP loads of times about injuries I'd received when travelling on busses and my GP told me that they see dozens of elderly people very week with bus injuries caused when they get thrown around and injure themselves when the busses stop or even when people push them. Elderly people can break bones and get serisouly injured from bus injuries so I'm always willing to offer my seat to an elderly or an ill person.
 
One thing that winds me up is when I'm on the bus and we get to the bus stop and there are elderly people/pregnant women etc about to get on. I'll get up so there's a free seat and almost invariable some fit, young person will plonk themselves down on it :mad:
 
Louloubelle said:
On such occasions the decent thing to do IMO is to get up without offering them your seat as though you enjoy standing or need to move down to bus to look at some fascinating thing outside, allowing them to take the seat without obviously being offered it. Obviously if there's a bus / train full of desperate commuters this may not work as some other person will grab the seat first.
brilliant strategy :) :cool:

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I think they should run some ads to say that if you're sitting in one of the 'priority seats' you should be alert to whether there are people who need the seat more than you, rather than having your nose buried in a book or away with the fairies.

I know it's obvious, but they have loads of other ads about obvious stuff like moving down the carriage etc.
 
I do tend to say something if an elderly or infirm person is standing and no one offers their seat, I'll probably get myself stabbed one day.
 
Belushi said:
I do tend to say something if an elderly or infirm person is standing and no one offers their seat, I'll probably get myself stabbed one day.

I've done it loads of times and I've always been OK

People are either really zoned out in a world of their own and only too happy to give up a seat or they just zone out on purpose and either feign being asleep or bury their face in the paper so that they have an excuse to pretend they didn't know. That's what annoys me, the people in priority seats who conveniently suddenly fall asleep as the bus pulls into a stop. No mercy I say :cool:

Also you have to be aware that the person who looks healthy might not be, they might have a hidden disability so I always assume the best about people and ask nicely. :)
 
Louloubelle said:
Of course if these badges actually happen it's only a matter of time before fake ones are being sold on ebay
Something akin to some insane rat-running that happens on my route into work :mad:

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