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Would you get a sort of stray male cat neutered?!

trashpony said:
Rainingstars, I'm not entirely sure your posts are making any sense but I think you're saying that it's more important to neuter males than females. I don't think we need a lesson on biology to work that out :)

I don't honestly know how to find the owners. And what do I do? Put a collar round its neck with a bit of paper on it saying 'why don't you neuter your cat'?
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Females are the population bottleneck for humans as well. It's the same deal. Considering your not out there spaying/neutering as your job I guess it doesn't matter if you get it or not. SO, who cares :)

You asked. I answered.
 
blues said:
Whatever your opinion is, it isn't YOUR cat. It's utterly unacceptable for you to decide their cat should be neutered or not. Whilst all my animals are, I'd be furious if someone else took it into their head to capture one of my animals and neuter it. You're asking for a heap of trouble on your head if you take matters into your own hands.
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I agree.
If I were in you and your neighbours position I would stick some flyers up asking if the cat had an owner.
Would the people who say they would neuter a cat that does not belong to them also consider doing it to a neighbours dog without consent?
 
Clair De Lune said:
I agree.
If I were in you and your neighbours position I would stick some flyers up asking if the cat had an owner.
Would the people who say they would neuter a cat that does not belong to them also consider doing it to a neighbours dog without consent?
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If the dog was possibly a stray, then yes.

But I agree about the flyers
 
Clair De Lune said:
I agree.
If I were in you and your neighbours position I would stick some flyers up asking if the cat had an owner.
Would the people who say they would neuter a cat that does not belong to them also consider doing it to a neighbours dog without consent?
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"Don't Litter. Spay and Neuter."

:)

No I wouldn't neuter someone's dog. There are however far more stray cats around than dogs.
 
trashpony said:
My cats aren't chipped :o

I don't think it's a stray tbh - too well fed. BUT it is constantly hanging round here. My big worry (apart from the millions of kittens) is that he keeps coming in the house and I usually leave the back door open during the summer but I can't really with a cat that's like to spray all over the shop.

I am quite tempted to do it - I'm sure it'd piss his owners off but they're being really irresponsible IMO
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This.
 
Pet owners who have abandoned their animals or have failed to spay or neuter them have created this situation. These pets breed into colonies that can be found almost everywhere: abandoned buildings, campuses, parks, alleys, undeveloped areas, shopping centers or businesses. The abandoned domesticated pets and the resulting feral cats struggle to stay alive in these environments. Feral cats are the innocent victims of human neglect. We humans created the feral cat crisis, it is up to us to undo the problems: to stop the overpopulation, the suffering it creates, and the costs it incurs.
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http://www.straycatalliance.org/crisis.php
 
I still think it would be of greater benefit to neuter random neighbourhood children. They are a far greater nuisance than cats, especially when old enough to vote.
 
Rainingstairs said:
nope. I'm across the pond :) But I'm sure the cat situation is quite similar.
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I wondered if you were :) From that link you posted, I would say it's worse where you are. Yeah, there are strays & ferals here, but I wouldn't say it's on the same scale. Maybe because we have lots of animal charities (not saying there aren't in the US) who spend a lot of time and money on encouraging responsible pet ownership. :/
 
Well I disagree weltweit. When I moved into my house I had to keep my doors and windows closed because some twat who couldn't be bothered to be a responsible pet owner had an un-neutered tom which came into my place more than once and sprayed my flat with the foul stench of territorial marking. It wasn't till we got a dog that saw it off the premises in no uncertain terms that the problem resolved, although the foul odour stayed for a long time despite my best cleaning efforts.

If you keep an animal you have to take responsibility for it, and that includes neutering tomcats as they can affect other people.
 
I still think its completely out of order. What if there were a complication while he was having the procedure and the cat died? there might be a family agonising over their missing pet.
 
_pH_ said:
I wondered if you were :) From that link you posted, I would say it's worse where you are. Yeah, there are strays & ferals here, but I wouldn't say it's on the same scale. Maybe because we have lots of animal charities (not saying there aren't in the US) who spend a lot of time and money on encouraging responsible pet ownership. :/
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http://www.messybeast.com/ukferal.htm
As well as over 7 million pet cats, Britain has around 1 million feral cats. Strayed or abandoned pets, including pedigree cats, swell the feral cat population, presenting British animal welfare societies (humane societies, SPCAs) with a massive ongoing problem. The answer to this problem is not simply to kill the cats, but to curb the uncontrolled breeding and to promote responsible ownership of cats.
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Ok so there are 4 million stray cats in LA. 1 million strays in Britain (very old figure from 2002 it's prolly higher now). Yes, I'd say the problem is a little bigger here but not by much. Considering the state of California is actually bigger than all of Britain. lol
 
Clair De Lune said:
I still think its completely out of order. What if there were a complication while he was having the procedure and the cat died? there might be a family agonising over their missing pet.
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That's a big 'what if' though, tbf, neutering is pretty safe afaik. Your leaflets idea is a good one, but if it wasn't successful, i'd take the kitteh to have his knackers off :)
 
Well, if they want a family pet, they have to take responsibility for it, end of. What kind of example is it to a child for a parent to get an animal and not look after it properly, but leave the neighbours to sort out the problems it causes? Also getting animals de-bollocked is not a major operation.
 
Any time anesthesia is used there are risks, not to mention wether you are going to give it the aftercare it will need.
I am not debating wether neutering is right or wrong, I am just saying that having an operation (however small) on someone elses pet without even attempting to gain consent is imo wrong.
 
Do it. It's not like the cats gonna tell his dad on you, is it? You'll be doing the neighbourhood a favour. And him. He won't fuck off for miles over a sniff of a female. The owners probably won't even know unless you send him off afterwards wearing a lampshade.
 
Rainingstairs said:
http://www.messybeast.com/ukferal.htm


Ok so there are 4 million stray cats in LA. 1 million strays in Britain (very old figure from 2002 it's prolly higher now). Yes, I'd say the problem is a little bigger here but not by much. Considering the state of California is actually bigger than all of Britain. lol
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that was a really interesting read, thank you :)

slightly off topic, but I found this bit especially interesting:

In fact, according to some researchers, traditional conservation efforts to protect the "pure" Scottish wildcat may be misguided. It has interbred with domestic cats for around 2000 years, so long that it no longer makes sense to preserve it as a separate pure-bred species since genetic tests put its purity in doubt. They argue that the replacement of wildcats by more adaptable hybrids is evolution in action.
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I tend to agree with that, not just for Scottish Wildcats, but also other hybrids (e.g. white-headed/ruddy duck hybrids)

e2a: Thinking about it more, if scottish wildcats were entirely pure they would likely be fairly inbred due to the small population numbers, which is not good for any species long term
 
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