Wot no 'Galloway arrested in Egypt' thread?

[In Bloom]

Ah you see your trouble there.

Only one of us is insulting

Perhaps you can explain what the fuck a hypothetical Nick Griffin insulting a hypothetical Tony Blair has to do with a British national (sic) being jailed and then released in Egypt whilst taking part in an anti-War stunt?

Apart from being a contender for "Week's Shitest Argument", of course.

I was just trying to point out that any world view which is dependent on "anti-war good, pro-war bad" is painfully simplistic, given that Nick Griffin was opposed to the Iraq war.

 

[In Bloom]

Yep this thread got the reaction I expected. Anarchists spend a lot of time telling us about how they are totally against the state and spend their time doing prisoner support et al. Many no doubt are sincere people. However, when a leading anti-war socialist MP is jailed in a dictatorship run by one of Bush and Blair's mates - do any of them on here express any signs of solidarity with a prisoner of the state?

Not a chance.

So your argument is that anarchists should show more solidarity with MPs?

Have you thought that one through reb?

 

[rebel warrior]

So your argument is that anarchists should show more solidarity with MPs?

Have you thought that one through reb?

I'd have thought anarchists might show solidarity with anyone involved in the anti-war and anti-capitalist movements who ends up in prison as a result of carrying out that activity ?

 

[In Bloom]

I'd have thought anarchists might show solidarity with anyone involved in the anti-war and anti-capitalist movements who ends up in prison as a result of carrying out that activity ?

He is an authoritarian arse, driven solely by his own personal interests, with some seriously dodgy political connections. His "activity" starts and ends with a few speaches and having dinner with brutal dictators.

He does more harm than good and I haven't the slightest iota of sympathy for him.

 

[rebel warrior]

He is an authoritarian arse, driven solely by his own personal interests, with some seriously dodgy political connections. His "activity" starts and ends with a few speaches and having dinner with brutal dictators.

He does more harm than good and I haven't the slightest iota of sympathy for him.

So you only support anti-capitalist prisoners of the capitalist state if they live up to your ideal of 'anti-authoritarianism'?

 

[In Bloom]

So you only support anti-capitalist prisoners of the capitalist state if they live up to your ideal of 'anti-authoritarianism'?

Nope, I just don't support George Galloway.

I'd be quite happy to do prisoner support work for a Trotskyist, I just draw the line at MPs, particularly those of Galloway's loathsome ilk.

 

[Wilf]

Yep this thread got the reaction I expected. Anarchists spend a lot of time telling us about how they are totally against the state and spend their time doing prisoner support et al. Many no doubt are sincere people. However, when a leading anti-war socialist MP is jailed in a dictatorship run by one of Bush and Blair's mates - do any of them on here express any signs of solidarity with a prisoner of the state?

Not a chance.

I'd probably get involved in prisoner support for him when he got into the second decade of his sentence.

Come off it, don't start pretending that he was some heroic figure - friendless, isloated, in fear of his life, risking torture - he's an MP who was kept in for a few hours.

Actually, friendless..

 

[DexterTCN]

I was just trying to point out that any world view which is dependent on "anti-war good, pro-war bad" is painfully simplistic, given that Nick Griffin was opposed to the Iraq war.

No you weren't.

You were trying to imply, in an oafish and ill-thought out way, that because I support Galloway in this (being illegally jailed then being released and apologised too, which of course has not happened to Griffin) ...that this means that at some other point I would support the BNP and I can be accused of such instead of being given serious postings.

In an effort to tar me with a nazi brush you make yourself look a thuggish arsehole. Whether you are a thuggish arsehole or not I can't say - I don't think we've ever discussed anything so I wouldn't venture an opinion at the moment. A more in-depth discussion would be necessary, for me anyway.

However if track records are anything to go by around here...I better put up my abuse umbrella

 

[TAE]

However just as he was about to board the flight back to Heathrow, the Egyptian authorities suddenly decided he was no londer a national security problem and let him into Egypt, but too late for the event to which he had been invited.

I wonder why they arrested him in the first place.

 

[In Bloom]

No you weren't.

Your powers of telepathy are truly astonishing, perhaps you should take your act on the road, you are clearly wasting your talents here.

You were trying to imply, in an oafish and ill-thought out way, that because I support Galloway in this (being illegally jailed then being released and apologised too, which of course has not happened to Griffin) ...that this means that at some other point I would support the BNP and I can be accused of such instead of being given serious postings.

In an effort to tar me with a nazi brush you make yourself look a thuggish arsehole. Whether you are a thuggish arsehole or not I can't say - I don't think we've ever discussed anything so I wouldn't venture an opinion at the moment. A more in-depth discussion would be necessary, for me anyway.

I wasn't trying to imply anything of the kind, I was merely trying to demonstrate the absurdity of this us and them, anti Iraq war vs. pro Iraq war attitude you were displaying by using an example where you certainly wouldn't support somebody anti Iraq war.

 

[chilango]

Yep this thread got the reaction I expected. Anarchists spend a lot of time telling us about how they are totally against the state and spend their time doing prisoner support et al. Many no doubt are sincere people. However, when a leading anti-war socialist MP is jailed in a dictatorship run by one of Bush and Blair's mates - do any of them on here express any signs of solidarity with a prisoner of the state?

Not a chance.

Hey, I`ve been detained by the military trying to get into7out of several countries (4 or 5 I think)...are you gonna hero worship me too?

I smoke expensive cigars too if that helps.