Worst vegetarian food?

[TopCat]

I shudder to think what the veggie tube is made of.

 

[Herbsman.]

Fake meat, and TVP.

 

[trashpony]

back in the bad old days before Linda McC sacrificed herself on the altar of shite and the rest of her family devoted the rest of their lives to ensuring that her incredibly high standards of cheap mock-flesh frozen foods were maintained (this is true - read it on the packet), you used to be able to buy these giant bags of something called TVP - Textured Vegetable Protein

it looked like chewed-up meat gristle that someone had spat out
it felt like chewed-up meat gristle that someone had spat out
it tasted like ... you're detecting a pattern at this point i'm sure

Can't you buy that any more? I lived on that when I was a student. It was fucking rank though - you're right

 

[tangerinedream]

Can't you buy that any more? I lived on that when I was a student. It was fucking rank though - you're right

You can buy it in health food shops. I find it more pallatable than Tofu personally.

 

[tangerinedream]

Do you mean quorn?

sosmix is real, it's quite nice

 

[tangerinedream]

sosmix is real, it's quite nice

Oh, you know it, Just read the hamsters bedding line

 

[trashpony]

You can buy it in health food shops. I find it more pallatable than Tofu personally.

Really? Then again my student cooking skills weren't up to much

 

[fortyplus]

Canneloni ( sp) ps I know Ive got the spelling wrong of canneloni

ok, but vegetarian "sausages"?

and anyway, a meat filling for canelloni is generally to be preferred, though spinach/ricotta makes a pleasant change..

 

[muser]

I find that lovely when eating it at chinese restuarants but when try to cook it, unless add a silly amount of oil which must reduce its healthy properties, crumbles into nothing

add monosodium glutamate.
pineapple on\in anything makes me heave. should not be allowed.
'warm' salads is another pet hate.

 

[tangerinedream]

Really? Then again my student cooking skills weren't up to much

You can in the one near cyberfairy's house anyway.

 

[gaijingirl]

Someone has got to eat it.

((((((((((((billions of people in Asia)))))))))))))))))))

But the point is if you make a distinction between two groups like below where you've got foodstuffs that have been developed to fit a Western vegetarian market and natural foods that just happen to be vegetarian (as below), tofu fits into the second group. Tofu has been marketed by supermarkets here as a "vegetarian food".. so people who do lots of shopping in supermarkets often think it's some kind of specialist vegetarian thing. Whereas if you go to any East Asian (or spend any time in East Asia), you'll see that along with vegetables, rice, lentils (more South Asian) it is just a regular food stuff for lots of people who would not especially associate it with vegetarianism in any way.

I was a veggie for years and not a little bit of tofu, sosmix, psuedo bacon or any crap like that went into my gob.

Try cooking lentil dahls, rice and peas, bean stews, vegetable lasagne and so on. I still eat this sort of food now as it goes.

tofu belongs most definitely to the second group.

 

[cyberfairy]

It's probably a bit of a cheaty option, but I find Cauldron Food smoked tofu easier to cook than most.

Cheers-Cauldron food is by far the best veggie food producers IMO but do find it a bit pricey

 

[muser]

Not being a vegetarian, I have a theory that we - omnivores - cook the best vegetarian food, that is when we're cooking it to eat ourselves rather than to accommodate our veggie guests when we are often tempted to make it deliberately dull just to rub in what miserable prigs they are...

Fake meat of any sort is invariably a pale imitation of the real stuff.

Vegetables, on the other hand, are lovely - but they are spoiled when people try to make them into meat lookalikes. Sausages are a good way of using up the less mentionable parts of a pig, but why would anyone want to mash up vegetables and put them inside a tube to cook them?

I feel the same way. Its a cop out. a good veggie should adhere to a strict ethos.

 

[cyberfairy]

back in the bad old days before Linda McC sacrificed herself on the altar of shite and the rest of her family devoted the rest of their lives to ensuring that her incredibly high standards of cheap mock-flesh frozen foods were maintained (this is true - read it on the packet), you used to be able to buy these giant bags of something called TVP - Textured Vegetable Protein

it looked like chewed-up meat gristle that someone had spat out
it felt like chewed-up meat gristle that someone had spat out
it tasted like ... you're detecting a pattern at this point i'm sure

I can get it at local Scoopers, one of those weird places with big vats of nuts, teabags, onion powder etc for about 20p a bag-weirdly like it-not nearlry as nice as quorn etc but leave it in stock for ages and not too bad (for 20P!)

 

[tangerinedream]

I feel the same way. Its a cop out. a good veggie should adhere to a strict ethos.

A 'good veggie'



The reason quorn etc is useful, is so many recipes in our culture are based on meat, therefore it is easy to simply substitute the meat. Do you think we should all be eating mung bean stew all the time or something?

Is vegetarianism a competitive sport?

 

[northernhord]

Cheap vegi burgers are shite, I aint ever been a big fan of Tofu either

 

[Agent Sparrow]

Obviously I'm biased, but squished up vegetables in a tube sounds far more appetising that squished up offal...

Anyway, veggie sausages vary in what they're made of and how nice they are. BBQs aside, the only veggie sausages I'd generally buy, cook and eat myself are the Cauldron ones (yes, Cauldron again ) and aren't they made of tofu? It's also not like I eat them all the time, it's just something for those occasions when I really fancy bangers and mash.

But then I'm not a good veggie because I'm a good pescatarian anyway.

 

[gaijingirl]

I can't stand quorn, the texture makes me shudder and I've a friend who's allergic and since seeing him spew up outside the Barrier block (he's also been hospitalised because of it before) that was it for me! Not a big fan of fake meaty things in general, a couple of times a year I might have some Cauldron veggy sausages (made from tofu) and Alien Nation and Acid Priest did make me some veggy bacon in a bagel when we were camping with shit loads of cheese which, surprisingly, I enjoyed, but I think it was being outdoors and the overwhelming amount of fat that was the attraction!!

Apart from that I don't think there's anything I don't like.

 

[cyberfairy]

I feel the same way. Its a cop out. a good veggie should adhere to a strict ethos.

Why 'a strict ethos'? I'm vegetarian-I do not eat meat or fish-vegetables rolled into a sausage shape does not make me a 'cop-out'-it makes me someone who likes to eat vegetables in different forms, shapes and textures to stop me getting bored-nothing has suffered apart from carrots

 

[cyberfairy]

Thanks for your tofu tips Will give it a try tomorrow

 

[fortyplus]

A 'good veggie'



The reason quorn etc is useful, is so many recipes in our culture are based on meat, therefore it is easy to simply substitute the meat. Do you think we should all be eating mung bean stew all the time or something?

Is vegetarianism a competitive sport?

oh ffs.

I'm a pretty militant meat-eater (a) because I like it and (b) because the insufferable priggishness of vegetarians drives me to it.

But I eat vegetarian food probably four days out of five, out of choice. Were I ever to give up meat, I'd just make that five days out of five. There's so much really delicious vegetarian food that actually has the vegetables as the star turn that I just do not see the point of fake meat at all.

In fact, if I were a militant vegetarian I'd say that using fake meat was pandering to the dominant carnivorous culture and was therefore a betrayal of the cause.

 

[Agent Sparrow]

oh ffs.

I'm a pretty militant meat-eater (a) because I like it and (b) because the insufferable priggishness of vegetarians drives me to it.

But I eat vegetarian food probably four days out of five, out of choice. Were I ever to give up meat, I'd just make that five days out of five. There's so much really delicious vegetarian food that actually has the vegetables as the star turn that I just do not see the point of fake meat at all.

In fact, if I were a militant vegetarian I'd say that using fake meat was pandering to the dominant carnivorous culture and was therefore a betrayal of the cause.

Sorry, you moaning about militant veggies makes me laugh considering the only two people who have seemed priggish or high and mighty on this thread has been you and muser.

I assume you're trying to wind people up, and I'm not biting.

 

[cyberfairy]

Sorry, you moaning about militant veggies makes me laugh considering the only two people who have seemed priggish or high and mighty on this thread has been you and muser.

I assume you're trying to wind people up, and I'm not biting.

I was just thinking the same as think tangerine was being opposite of militant veggie
Do these priggish veggies really exist apart from in the minds of meat eaters?

 

[tangerinedream]

oh ffs.

I'm a pretty militant meat-eater (a) because I like it and (b) because the insufferable priggishness of vegetarians drives me to it.

But I eat vegetarian food probably four days out of five, out of choice. Were I ever to give up meat, I'd just make that five days out of five. There's so much really delicious vegetarian food that actually has the vegetables as the star turn that I just do not see the point of fake meat at all.

In fact, if I were a militant vegetarian I'd say that using fake meat was pandering to the dominant carnivorous culture and was therefore a betrayal of the cause.

What are you for fucks saking at?

I am an ex meat eater, have a limited culinary ability and limited time. I can cook a lot of dishes I learnt to cook with meat, but I choose not to eat meat. To be told I am 'betraying a cause' is just snobbery I'm afraid. What cause anyway?

I have no axe to grind with anyone who eats meat, I don't not eat meat to make a point or as a statement, just for my own choice. (I am not comfortable eatng dead stuff when I can easily not) For you to think you have the right to tell me what I should or shouldn't eat within my diet on the basis of some sort of label is frankly presumptious, arrogant and plain rude.

To describe me and all other vegetarians as 'insufferable and priggish' marks you out as a narrow minded, idiotic moron or a second rate Jeremy Clarkson impersonator to be honest.



Linda McCartney well-bled veal calf pieces anyone?

 

[tangerinedream]

I assume you're trying to wind people up, and I'm not biting.

I did

 

[fudgefactorfive]

personally the only thing i don't like about being a vegetarian is other people's stupid ideas about vegetarianism

 

[muser]

A 'good veggie'



The reason quorn etc is useful, is so many recipes in our culture are based on meat, therefore it is easy to simply substitute the meat. Do you think we should all be eating mung bean stew all the time or something?

Is vegetarianism a competitive sport?

There are lots of books devoted to vegetarian and vegan receipes. If someone decides to become a vegetarian (in th western world - before mention india, china etc) then its a huge undertaking and one that requires tailoring, your previous eating habits.
By taking meat substitutes (in the form of meat, i.e. sausages, bacon), you're inadvertently susceptible, to reneging on your ideals.

 

[fudgefactorfive]

eg.

There are lots of books devoted to vegetarian and vegan receipes. If someone decides to become a vegetarian (in th western world - before mention india, china etc) then its a huge undertaking and one that requires tailoring, your previous eating habits.
By taking meat substitutes (in the form of meat, i.e. sausages, bacon), you're inadvertently susceptible, to reneging on your ideals.

 

[muser]

oh ffs.

I'm a pretty militant meat-eater (a) because I like it and (b) because the insufferable priggishness of vegetarians drives me to it.

But I eat vegetarian food probably four days out of five, out of choice. Were I ever to give up meat, I'd just make that five days out of five. There's so much really delicious vegetarian food that actually has the vegetables as the star turn that I just do not see the point of fake meat at all.

In fact, if I were a militant vegetarian I'd say that using fake meat was pandering to the dominant carnivorous culture and was therefore a betrayal of the cause.

exactly

 

[Agent Sparrow]

Do these priggish veggies really exist apart from in the minds of meat eaters?

There are some, but then I think priggish meat eaters are proportionately more common IME. I dunno, perhaps if you're mates with AR activists it's a bit different?

However, I do find the "why on earth would you be veggie and eat meat substitutes?" argument odd, and that is one I've heard from veggies as well as meat eaters. People choose their eating habits based on a variety of factors and it's quite feasible someone who has stopped eating meat on totally moral grounds might enjoy eating meat subs.

Mind you, I do find that rare breed of veggie who don't actually like vegetables a leedle weird. No offense anyone.