worst star trek race

[Stigmata]

What about that episode with Robert Englund in it? That was rubbish.

And anything from S1 where Commander Sinclair was required to act. Sisko may have been a ham, but at least he didn't sound like a bloody amateur dramatics reject.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

I was totally addicted to Voyager when it first started. Loved it.

Haven't seen it in years now, mind.


Did they ever get back to Earth?

Yes but it was cheating.

 

[kyser_soze]

Yeah, even tho the actual episodes at the end of Voyager are good eps, it's a shite conclusion to the series.

 

[DotCommunist]

was it well deus x?

the Q got involved or some other race of super-beings?

 

[fen_boy]

Q

e2a - I mean the Q are shit.

 

[kyser_soze]

It wasn't even that, it just ended things really abruptly. It didn't involve the Q, nor a race of super-beings, and within the Voyager storyline it was completely in canon, it was just a bit too 'happy ending' for my, and many people's, liking.

The actual eps and the story were crackers, just the end was a bit 'meh'.

 

[Stigmata]

was it well deus x?

the Q got involved or some other race of super-beings?

It involved time travel and a Borg transwarp corridor iirc

 

[Santino]

By the end of Voyager you could defeat the Borg with a Starfleet shuttlecraft, two bits of string and a broken inverse warp coil.

 

[kyser_soze]

Neither of which were new or especially surprising...hell, there was even a ticking off from the crew of the Aeon for violating the Temporal Prime Directive...

 

[DotCommunist]

By the end of Voyager you could defeat the Borg with a Starfleet shuttlecraft, two bits of string and a broken inverse warp coil.

I call this the Satan issue.

You set up an Ultimate Badass but each time Ultimate Badass gets defeated his cred as Ultimate Badass gets eroded.

See also: The Terminator.

 

[Stigmata]

They overused the Borg Queen. She was cool as a freaky one-off emergent intelligence in First Contact, but I don't see why she needs to exist when the Collective is going about its normal business.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Jemhaddar and The Borg are ace though

Borg were wank when they turned out to have a queen.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Nowt wrong with that. I just ignore Janeway and focus on the rest of the crew, and the Borg encounter eps.

Humm, I think I have blot out most of the cast. Who is cool/good in that?

 

[strung out]

none of them apart from the doctor and seven

 

[ChrisC]

anyone else want to bone Be'lanna?


just me then

No not just you.

 

[Sunray]

This discussion reminds me why I stopped watching Startrek some time ago.

 

[Santino]

They overused the Borg Queen. She was cool as a freaky one-off emergent intelligence in First Contact, but I don't see why she needs to exist when the Collective is going about its normal business.

Borg were wank when they turned out to have a queen.

First time we saw her the Queen was an interesting plot device, but later on it was just to give episodes a visual focus so that we could see what the Borg were thinking. When she says 'Fire torpedoes' or whatever it's just quicker to see her say it than have Tuvok say 'They appear to be firing torpedoes, Captain.'

Much worse than that was Unimatrix Zero where all the nice Borg when went for dreamy time.

 

[ChrisC]

I was totally addicted to Voyager when it first started. Loved it.

Haven't seen it in years now, mind.


Did they ever get back to Earth?

Yes and it was done very well. I could have been such a cop out. But it delivered.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

none of them apart from the doctor and seven

Oh yeah the doctor is well cool. I loved it when he turned up in that film one.

Bit illogical for seven to have heals.

 

[kabbes]

I have giving it thought and the very, very worst aliens are those with plot-breaking abilities.
The two that spring to mind are Q and the Shapeshifters (you may be able to think of others).
Since Q only turned up irregularly, I'm going to have to give it to Odo.

 

[Stigmata]

Odo's shapeshifting was pretty lame, he couldn't impersonate people.

 

[kabbes]

Wasn't that just him though? Because it was so fucking plot-breaking they had to nerf him.

 

[strung out]

he could do animals pretty well though. at least to our untrained eye

 

[toggle]

he could do animals pretty well though. at least to our untrained eye

all those bloody animals, but never a decenyt looking set of ears?

 

[kabbes]

all those bloody animals, but never a decenyt looking set of ears?

That's the problem with him. His abilities are game-breakers. So they have to nerf him. But the nerfing leads to inconsistencies and a lack of internal logic or verisimilitude. As a consequence, we are left feeling dissatisfied with the whole set-up.

In other words: SHIT.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Humans v Klingons, 1984, what a shocker, I couldn't believe the way Kirk took that final corner. The humans were nailed on for the podium

 

[toggle]

seems like a good idea to start off with, then you ahve to work out the details and they don't work.

 

[kabbes]

Exactly. Golden rule: don't start with a game-breaker. It will be too big a headache.

 

[toggle]

i did like the ferengi though, the whole anti- federation thing they had going, the opposite of federation values, then tquark points out that they never managed all the atrocities humans committed.

thw worst bit about ds9 was when they federationized the ferengi

 

[fubert]

Whatever one the cock Neelix belongs to.

Talaxians. Fucking space hobbits.