worlds greatest actor (ch4, sunday 9pm-1am) - your thoughts?
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spanglechick
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wasn't brian blessed lovely and luvvie about him?TheLostProphet said:
"he just needs a director to open him out"
pitt is amazing though. His looks are almost certainly a hinderance, so age will help.
was surprised to see kate winslet that high up the list. she's very good, but better than, say, vivien leigh?
spanglechick
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youngsters, tch!TheLostProphet said:Can't watch the damn thing, my housemates are watching MTV
orson welles was quite far back in the list.
The American Film Institute published a list of the 50 Greatest American Screen Legends in 1999 (25 men and 25 women).
The top 5 actors were: Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant, James Stewart, Marlon Brando and Fred Astaire.
The top 5 actresses were: Katharine Hepburn, Bette Davis, Audrey Hepburn, Ingrid Bergman and Greta Garbo.
Whilst that list only considered actors whose careers had started before 1950 or were dead, I would still consider that these actors should rank near the very top if the period covered were extended.
I agree with film critic Roger Ebert, who wrote about the unveiling of that list at the time:
"We also learn that degrees of greatness can be measured, and that stars who were one of a kind are now one of 25...to me the great stars are unique, individual, INCOMPARABLE, and shouldn't be ranked like Derby entries."
Unfortunately, Channel 4 seems to be obsessed with list programmes.
The top 5 actors were: Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant, James Stewart, Marlon Brando and Fred Astaire.
The top 5 actresses were: Katharine Hepburn, Bette Davis, Audrey Hepburn, Ingrid Bergman and Greta Garbo.
Whilst that list only considered actors whose careers had started before 1950 or were dead, I would still consider that these actors should rank near the very top if the period covered were extended.
I agree with film critic Roger Ebert, who wrote about the unveiling of that list at the time:
"We also learn that degrees of greatness can be measured, and that stars who were one of a kind are now one of 25...to me the great stars are unique, individual, INCOMPARABLE, and shouldn't be ranked like Derby entries."
Unfortunately, Channel 4 seems to be obsessed with list programmes.
trashpony
Hag
Another vote for Toni Collette - I think she's fantastic.
Hmm blokes are more tricky. I can't see beyond the fact that I dislike some of them (Cruise, Crowe (sorry spangles), Hanks ) and fancy others (Pitt, Gyllenhall) so I'm not that objective 
I think Mike Pearce is really good though of 'today's' actors.
Will have to think some more ...
Hmm blokes are more tricky. I can't see beyond the fact that I dislike some of them (Cruise, Crowe (sorry spangles), Hanks
) and fancy others (Pitt, Gyllenhall) so I'm not that objective I think Mike Pearce is really good though of 'today's' actors.
Will have to think some more ...
spanglechick
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that'll be guy pearce, trashy - who played Mike in neighbours?trashpony said:Another vote for Toni Collette - I think she's fantastic.
Hmm blokes are more tricky. I can't see beyond the fact that I dislike some of them (Cruise, Crowe (sorry spangles), Hanks
I think Mike Pearce is really good though of 'today's' actors.
Will have to think some more ...
pmsl
Johnny Canuck3
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Dubversion said:
I'm a fan of Nicholson, but I'd agree that he doesn't have a broad range.
spanglechick
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not yet. daniel day lewis, atm...TheLostProphet said:
been in yet? great range
spanglechick
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14 chris walken
13 jimmy stewart
btw, the film journo talking head (dan jolin, reviews editor for empire), was one of my bessie mates when i was about 16.
13 jimmy stewart
btw, the film journo talking head (dan jolin, reviews editor for empire), was one of my bessie mates when i was about 16.
Johnny Canuck2 said:
He does eccentric and slightly dangerous really well, and he does completely mad and very dangerous extremely well.
When he tries sad and slightly eccentric but basically harmless he doesn't quite succeed, except in As Good As It gets when he's right on the edge of slightly dangerous.
Johnny Canuck3
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Groucho said:
He does sneering really well.
spanglechick
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12 Richard Burton
11 Alec Guinness
11 Alec Guinness
spanglechick
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yup - little way backTheLostProphet said:has sellers been in yet?
10 Spencer Tracy
9 Katherine Hepburn (spooky!)
8 Judi Dench
apparently the poll was from british and american actors.
edit -
7 Nicholson
spanglechick
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who, baby?TheLostProphet said:
Cursed luck.
6 Pacino
5 de Niro
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Nicholson, I wanted him top 5 at least *theatrical sigh, crosses to fireplace* 
De Niro does not deserve to be that far up the list IMO. He's good, but dear god he's lost it now. Pacino is the same, picking up his paycheck and sleepwalking through stuff
Has Jean Reno cropped up, because as much as I like Leon and even Ronin (yeah, I know DeNiro...) I can't get over Godzilla and the bloody Barclays adverts
De Niro does not deserve to be that far up the list IMO. He's good, but dear god he's lost it now. Pacino is the same, picking up his paycheck and sleepwalking through stuff
Has Jean Reno cropped up, because as much as I like Leon and even Ronin (yeah, I know DeNiro...) I can't get over Godzilla and the bloody Barclays adverts
DJ Squelch
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Keanu surely.
spanglechick
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TheLostProphet said:Nicholson, I wanted him top 5 at least *theatrical sigh, crosses to fireplace*
De Niro does not deserve to be that far up the list IMO. He's good, but dear god he's lost it now. Pacino is the same, picking up his paycheck and sleepwalking through stuff
Has Jean Reno cropped up, because as much as I like Leon and even Ronin (yeah, I know DeNiro...) I can't get over Godzilla and the bloody Barclays adverts
no - but i missed the beginning.
we haven't had olivier or brando yet (or crowe, unless he was at the start)... dunno who the others will be...
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