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pocketscience

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Going to go out on a bit of a ledge: how much genuine quality have we seen in this World Cup? We've seen lots of entertaining games, lots of drama, but while there have been a few impressive performances it feels like we haven't seen teams or players consistently show their quality.

Could be wrong, I always forget stuff, but was just musing on it this morning and struggling to think of any.
As mentioned up-thread, I think the quality of the "rest of the (footballing) world", the so called minnows, has improved infinitely. With the exception of Germany and Spain, I don't see any significant drop in quality of any of the established footballing nations this WC, quite the contrary - just look at England for example - the quality of play is much higher than any previous tournament; passing game on the ground, completed passes, set piece execution. Long ball, hit-and-hope is thankfully a distant memory.
imo it's because football is reaching a plateau of peak quality internationally that we're seeing more entertaining games with lots of drama.
So, I'd turn your point around and say that impressive performances stand out less and the crap performances stand out more(see Germany / Spain)

*eta; don't forget the quality of defending in the games with less drama - Sweden, Switzerland & Uruguay... a very high quality of defending
 

Lord Camomile

Lemonade socialist
Hm, interesting take. It's certainly been noticed for the past three or four tournaments that the smaller teams are generally more organised and less naive than previously. Hadn't thought about it that way round, though.
 

Teaboy

It definitely looks brighter over there..
I think the point about it being international football is an important one. We are fed a regular diet of Premier League and Champions League football which is on the whole an extremely high standard. Its hard to see how international football could ever ever match that or indeed exceed it.
 

Lord Camomile

Lemonade socialist
I think the point about it being international football is an important one. We are fed a regular diet of Premier League and Champions League football which is on the whole an extremely high standard. Its hard to see how international football could ever ever match that or indeed exceed it.
Aye, but it feels like at other tournaments there's usually one or two teams and individuals who you can point to as having 'great World Cups' or whatever, whereas this tournament hasn't really seen anyone be consistently on top over a series of matches.
 

skyscraper101

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Was there one last World Cup? Or the one before?

I vaguely recall James Rodríguez being a stand out player in 2014. Perhaps Mbeppe this time? Kane will certainly have gotten a lot more attention internationally too.
 

alleycatfilms

New Member

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littlebabyjesus

one of Maxwell's demons
As mentioned up-thread, I think the quality of the "rest of the (footballing) world", the so called minnows, has improved infinitely. With the exception of Germany and Spain, I don't see any significant drop in quality of any of the established footballing nations this WC, quite the contrary - just look at England for example - the quality of play is much higher than any previous tournament; passing game on the ground, completed passes, set piece execution. Long ball, hit-and-hope is thankfully a distant memory.
imo it's because football is reaching a plateau of peak quality internationally that we're seeing more entertaining games with lots of drama.
So, I'd turn your point around and say that impressive performances stand out less and the crap performances stand out more(see Germany / Spain)

*eta; don't forget the quality of defending in the games with less drama - Sweden, Switzerland & Uruguay... a very high quality of defending
Yep agree with this, and regarding England, what has most impressed me about their best passages of play has been their teamwork, movement and link-up play, which doesn't always necessarily involve one player standing out as amazing. That's been true of lots of other teams as well.

That said, I do think there have been loads of stand-out individual performances, and there has definitely been a way above-average number of brilliant goals.
 

Badgers

Mr Big Shrimp!
Excluding own goals, Kevin De Bruyne is the 100th different player to score at the 2018 World Cup finals.
 

JimW

支那暗杀团
Had a good chuckle at some of the Chinese web comments where bemoaning how shit the national team is makes the Scots look optimists:
"冰岛33万人口都能选出11个球员,反观亚洲某个国家坐拥十几亿人口却连个世界杯都进不了 真替印度感到丢脸"
Iceland with a population of 330,000 can pick eleven [good] players then you look at Asia and there's a country with a population of well over a billion can't even get into the finals...I'm really ashamed on behalf of India.
 

Badgers

Mr Big Shrimp!
This has been the best World Cup I can recall :cool:

I opened a betting account before it started with £10 and still have £13 left. Tips for the final games?
 
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