World Cup 2018

Discussion in 'World Cup 2018' started by Lord Camomile, Dec 1, 2017.

  1. strung out

    strung out (",)

    Anyone fancy recreating the Baddiel and Skinner trophy lifting moment, with the help of a small melon and a bucket of custard?

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  2. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    So it's a European and South American love-in. Just Mexico from Central America and Japan from Asia. No one from Africa.
  3. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    There have been 20 goals scored in the 90th minute or later at the 2018 World Cup finals so far. This is more than in the group stages at 2014, 2010 and 2006 combined (19).
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  4. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    It's definitely been a noticeable trend, but I wonder what the cause(s) is.
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  5. Wilf

    Wilf Dances like a Christian

    Alex Ferguson has been running workshops for international managers, on the quiet.
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  6. strung out

    strung out (",)

    So apparently not enough time is getting added on this year because of VAR and other stoppages.

    On average, matches at this world cup seem to be around 5 minutes shorter than they should be according to this article: We Timed Every Game. World Cup Stoppage Time Is Wildly Inaccurate.

    Not sure if this is wildly different to previous world cups - I would guess yes, because of VAR though.

    Is it possible that with extra added time because of VAR (albeit still not enough), goals are getting shifted out of normal time into added time?

    Another very interesting article here: The same thing that saved Germany has just knocked the team out of the 2018 World Cup

    The average additional time—adding up that of the first half and the second—of all the 90-minute games at the 2010 World Cup was 4.3 minutes. In Brazil in 2014, its was 5.4 minutes. This year, the average additional time in the 42 group-stage games played so far is 6.4 minutes. In the South Korea vs. Germany game, the referee awarded 12 minutes of additional time: three in the first half and nine in the second.

    6.4 minutes of additional time is longer than the median additional time of any of the top European leagues in the past five seasons. A lot of that has to do with the introduction of the Video Assistant Referee (VAR) system at this year’s tournament. Consulting a machine in the middle of a game takes time. As a result, referees must add more play time at the end of each half.
  7. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    World Cup VAR decisions

    95% correct without VAR
    99.3% correct with VAR

    Decisions checked by VAR, 335
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  8. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    Team of the tournament so far? For me its something like...

    Trippier, Godin, Gimenez
    Modric, Kante, Isco
    Ronaldo, Kane, Lukaku
  9. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    The problem of delays is becoming a major problem. I quite like the idea of 30 minute halves but the clock stops every time play stops. Would certainly deal with the massive amount of deliberate time wasting.
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  10. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    I'm not having your g/k there. He looks like the weak link in that team.
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  11. strung out

    strung out (",)

    Maguire, Stones, Walker
    Trippier, Henderson, Young, Loftus-Cheek, Lingard
    Kane, Ronaldo
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  12. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Instinctively I think I'd be up for that, but I think there'd be a lot of resistance from people who "don't want football to be like American sports". I think you'd still probably get timewasting, but it'd be to disrupt the flow and pace of the game, rather than run the clock down.
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  13. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Yes, I've been trying to think of the potential pitfalls and I guess it could be that instead of stopping time wasting players might just get used to 'downtime' or whatever and get used to taking a breather every time there is a stoppage. Ultimately you would get an hour of football (which is roughly in-line with how it currently is I think) but the whole event could end up going on for a couple or hours or more, so the Gridiron comparison is a good one.

    It does strike me as something that could be managed within the laws of the game, mind.
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  14. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

  15. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    It has to be said that everything about ITV sport is shite. Even their on-line viewer thingy is seriously crap compared to the iPlayer. Before the match yesterday did anyone see them using their one England match (in the group stages) to shill their piss poor evening crap show with that cunt Piers Moran? I nearly chucked my pint at the screen but it was still 3/4 full and I'm not made of money.
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  16. Monkeygrinder's Organ

    Monkeygrinder's Organ Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager

    It made me log in. Then I got a welcome screen that said 'Hello Dave'.

    My name is not Dave - I'm not sure if it was a mistake or a very oddly placed League of Gentlemen reference.
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  17. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

  18. souljacker

    souljacker innit

    Their stream quality is really poor. I suspect you can look up bitrates and the like, if you were that way inclined, but all I know is that matches on iPlayer are shown to me in full HD with no buffering whereas on ITV it looks like Mexico 86. I keep expecting the camera to focus on some England fans with mullets and tight shorts getting hit round the head by a mexican copper.
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  19. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

  20. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Oh, I've just found this. I forgot I still had it. I hoped it might be worth $$$$$$$ but it doesn't appear so.
  21. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    That is very :cool:

    I mean, yeah? Isn't that just maths? :confused:
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  22. Lupa

    Lupa Well-Known Member

    I just want to know will Belgium come in the top 3

    .between €50 and €150 riding on it placing.
  23. Wilf

    Wilf Dances like a Christian

    I remember collecting those but getting nowhere near the full set. Looks to be about 30 on there, assuming they are all different. Were squads smaller then? :confused:
    Edit: bigger, I mean were they bigger then. Squads today are 23 iirc (2 x 11 + 1 who has to be a 3rd keeper)
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2018
  24. Wilf

    Wilf Dances like a Christian

    All I can tell you is that, after last night's match, they have more chance than England.
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  25. Libertad

    Libertad Would it help?

    I had all those! Well all except Norman Hunter which was probably just as well.
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  26. Dr. Furface

    Dr. Furface One small step for man

    I had a few of them, but my dad was such a tight bastard that he wouldn't fill up at Esso anything like often enough for me to get the set.
  27. editor

    editor hiraethified

    There's loads of names in there I've never heard of.
  28. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

  29. Wilf

    Wilf Dances like a Christian

    Curious really because there were actually 22 in the final squad:
    1970 FIFA World Cup squads - Wikipedia
    Esso must have published these before the final squad was announced
  30. billbond

    billbond Banned Banned

    Have one my self.
    I have done a bit of buying and selling memorabilia for years.
    Sorry editor to tell you but not a fortune, in good nick about £25-40.
    Nice little item
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