Working Class Heroes
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Lucy Parsons remains my hero, head and shoulders above the rest. 
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Violette Szabo, she worked at Woolies before joining the ATS and then the SOE
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bolshiebhoy said:
This thread is about working class women, not middle/upper class women, who no matter how much they may done in sacrifice and commitement to helping working class people, does not make them working class. Make another thread for middle/upper class women heroes if you want, but lets stay on the topic of this thread.
Is Bernadette working class? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernadette_Devlin
Studying Psychology at Queen's University Belfast in 1968 - hmmm.
Studying Psychology at Queen's University Belfast in 1968 - hmmm.
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Is that first one a joke? A stalinist hack and hatchet woman whose famour speeches weren't even written by her?
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I knew she'd stick in your craw Come on though, she was literally a working class hero before and during the civil war. Shit politics and a murderous intent towards anarchists and trots can't change that. Like it or not some of the best fighters in the workers movement have been stalinists.
Come on though, she was literally a working class hero before and during the civil war. Shit politics and a murderous intent towards anarchists and trots can't change that. Like it or not some of the best fighters in the workers movement have been stalinists.butchersapron
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No she wasn't really - the communists had almost exactly zero influence in Spain before the war (and before 1937 during the war) and i doubt any of them were 'working class heros' due to this insignificant influence. The conditions in Spain were not the same for Communist parties in Spain as in other European countries so there wasn't really any space for them to develop and become the sort of heros that some of them were elsewhere, as the CNT and the UGT dominated everything.
She might have been personally brave but compared to the thousands of other women in spain rotting in jail or on the prison-ships, or being murdered by the bosses in this period she was always a minor figure - but i suppose because she was feted by the popular front idiots and intellectuals she'll always be better known - so whilst the CNT and other groups were fighting for independent w/c politics in a clearly pre-revolutionary siutation she was demanding alliances with the small bosses and landowners...
(Stalin himself was also personally brave wasn't he
)
She might have been personally brave but compared to the thousands of other women in spain rotting in jail or on the prison-ships, or being murdered by the bosses in this period she was always a minor figure - but i suppose because she was feted by the popular front idiots and intellectuals she'll always be better known - so whilst the CNT and other groups were fighting for independent w/c politics in a clearly pre-revolutionary siutation she was demanding alliances with the small bosses and landowners...
(Stalin himself was also personally brave wasn't he
)
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Robbing banks and running assasination squads in Tsarist Russia takes some balls...
Don't know the other one. (And i'm waiting on something back from UWE to send to you on that other thing)
Don't know the other one. (And i'm waiting on something back from UWE to send to you on that other thing)
butchersapron
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Matt, would you please learn to quote properly - it does make things easier. This is what i said:
"No she wasn't really - the communists had almost exactly zero influence in Spain before the war (and before 1937 during the war) and i doubt any of them were 'working class heros' due to this insignificant influence"
"No she wasn't really - the communists had almost exactly zero influence in Spain before the war (and before 1937 during the war) and i doubt any of them were 'working class heros' due to this insignificant influence"
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