work frustrations

Discussion in 'education & employment' started by Pingu, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    Sent new, keen sounding manager over the dates I could work. Got one back asking if I could work this week just gone, which wasn't on the list. Since then nothing. Despite a polite email from me on Thursday, saying I was happy to work for them, but needed to know what was happening. It's bizzare. As far as I know they are still very short staffed, but just because I'm now bank, does not mean that the only work I do for them is at very short notice. It's rude if nothing else.

    Anyway. First day of the year back in Wales. Set up of even more early then normal in case snow disruption, but other then the first and last half miles the roads were a dream. I'm now really early, but there are worse places to sit and wait then looking at snow covered hills.
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  2. BristolEcho

    BristolEcho Well-Known Member

    Success. He was really short with me at the beginning and then I started pushing it and spoke to the ICO who backed me up. They have now done their own investigation and they have been told the same so have removed access to this information.

    Suffice to say I will be reporting the whole organisation as a concern to my local council as they don't know what they are doing at all.

    Thanks for the help, and as we all know don't assume your boss knows the law.
  3. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    Assume your boss doesn't know the law is a useful starting point, I find :)
  4. Almor

    Almor Well-Known Member

    Assume that the boss doesn't know shit seems to be a reasonable starting point for many of us
  5. flypanam

    flypanam designated title: local oaf

    Found out today that all other roles (in the HEI I work in) are on the same pay grade as me, which require someone to be educated to a good GCSE level. My role requires postgraduate qualifications and membership of a professional association in this case Chartered Institute of Library and Information Professionals (CILIP). I'm perplexed that roles in the same grade can have widely different requirements.
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  6. crossthebreeze

    crossthebreeze Well-Known Member

    Had the most surreal meeting last night. If i wasn't laughing at how so many highly qualified in their own field, supposedly intelligent people can become such utter numpties when outside their area of expertise yet have absolutely no insight into their lack of skills/knowledge i would be in tears. Fucking voluntary sector!
  7. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    Photos and full names of staff members have been put up in public in our workspace without our consent. We think they have no right and it raises issues of privacy, security and safety. We deal with the public, on sensitive matters, and often have to tell people things they don't want to hear. Have emailed the union to find out where we stand.
    I took my photo down and got quizzed about it, but not reprimanded, but was told a higher up manager would he informed. I don't think I'm in trouble, but it's pissed me off all the same.
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  8. StoneRoad

    StoneRoad heckling from the back!

    I had a similar issue with wearing name badges - ended up with a lot of people using nicknames or just their forename.
    I agree with Orang Utan about the safety aspect, as my RL surname is very rare. Fortunately, I don't splash it around.
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  9. bemused

    bemused Well-Known Member

    In the past few months, I've had to work with simply the most odious person I've ever had the misfortune of working with. He' a bully, refuses to admit he's wrong (and he always is) and it's impossible to find a single person the company who likes him. Sadly although I outrank him he's managed to get an acting position which means he can lord his fuckwittery over many people. However, this week it's been announced that the acting position has been filled by someone and he'll be doing something else - I hope without people. I've greatly enjoyed watching people starting to openly take the piss out of this awful shitlord and it's a great way to finish the Friday.
  10. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    We already wear name badges with our first names on and have photo ID/entry fobs on lanyards round our necks anyway!
  11. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    Interesting. With the changes to data protection coming in shortly, and the increased obligations on employers, things like this may hopefully be a thing of the past. The employer must tell you what personal data of yours it has and what it intends to do with it, including how it is stored and used.

    So you could raise it with a senior manager and gently bring their attention to the GDPR, the ICO website has lots of advice and they are currently running a helpline. Also, domestic violence and stalking survivors may not wish for their details to be made public like this.

    Definitely worth pursuing if you can.
  12. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    We actually had some GDPR people come in the other day to ask questions about what we do with customers' details. Not ours though. :mad:
  13. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    this is what I pointed out!
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  14. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat meh

    I have a feeling that full name / photo would constitute 'personal data' under current data protection law / guidance,m so would agree it's possibly dodgy.

    Indeed. I once got my ticket checked on a train by a guard with shortish cropped hair and a moustache whose name badge said he was Tom Finland. I suspect most passengers didn't get it...
  15. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    Aye, i googled and found that it could be a breach of both the data protection act and the human rights act.
  16. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    Lots of employers seem to be ignoring their upcoming obligations under the GDPR - the 'let's not tell them and hope they don't find out' strategy appears to be increasingly popular.
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  17. Sapphireblue

    Sapphireblue Well-Known Member

    manager keeps reallocating my work to other members of the team. i am too busy that is true, but he's doing it with no consideration for the context. so he just allocated a massive piece of work that is inextricably linked with another piece of work, which i am 75% of the way through. it can't just be reallocated without a handover and it makes a lot more sense for me to just finish it.
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  18. existentialist

    existentialist Apprentice bachelor

    So, one of my employers was set up about 10 years ago by two very nice ladies, who ran the thing on a kind of trust-and-consensus basis for all that time, with very little trouble. When they retired, it all kicked off a bit - certain of the team took exception to their rather cosy setup being disrupted by a more go-getting managerial type being in charge. Me, I nailed my colours to the mast, and ended up on the inside pissing out. We weathered that drama, and looked to be set fair for a slightly smoother ride.

    As part of which, we've been trying to tidy up some of the anomalies that this consensus-based approach had led to. And have walked into a new political row. One of the team, who is, shall we say, not unconnected with one of the ladies who set things up, has been being paid on a rather more generous basis than her level of qualification strictly warrants. This means that there's not really a way of slotting her neatly into our new grading system without either causing her a drop in wages (something we said the change wouldn't do), or putting her on the top scale (which rather makes a mockery of the whole thing).

    My co-director is not an especially pragmatic person, and is evidently pissed off about this new complication (I'm not pleased, but in a more "Gah, what NOW? :rolleyes:" kind of way). Cue yet another dose of that tippy-toed trademark existentialist diplo-shuttle charm offensive thing. I do have a plan, but I am going to have to persuade people to accept it, which needs a bit of pragmatism on all sides.

    Starting at 8am tomorrow with a meeting with my co-director. There goes breakfast :). Then off to try and present a solution to ruffled-feathers retired-but-still-currently-a-director founder person, then present the outcome to generally-flustered colleague.

    When all this is over, I think I should have some kind of mega-flouncy freakout just on principle, because it's my turn. Every other fucker seems to get one! :D
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  19. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat meh

    sod that. make it a working breakfast sort of thing.

    someone has to cook a FEB (or FWB as appropriate)

    sounds interesting.

    from a former union rep background, inclination is to argue for equalisation upwards. or pay protection for X amount of time (or until pay rises on their new grade catch up with their current actual pay) if someone is getting downgraded. do you have a policy for that? i don't know what the current deal is with local authority terms and conditions for that sort of thing (and even less know whether yours is the sort of voluntary organisation that tries to mirror local authority terms and conditions)

    have fun.
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  20. extra dry

    extra dry Happy to be here

    The last 8 weeks has seen three teachers leave, with no replacements in sight I ve interviewed but the candidates are not ideal ...feeling that I may need to switch jobs, as very stressfull
  21. existentialist

    existentialist Apprentice bachelor

    I think a FWB is something slightly different :hmm:

    We're essentially trying to adopt a vaguely NHS model - our funding is from the LHB, so they have Certain Expectations.

    Looks like we're well on the way to sorting it out, anyway - my co-director writes the ferocious emails, and then I launder the language to produce something slightly less likely to prompt WW3. That job is now done, and we await the reaction...
  22. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat meh

    in this context, full welsh breakfast. fairly sure that the FEB thread has approved this as a regional variation
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  23. mx wcfc

    mx wcfc Well-Known Member

    Not exactly a frustration, but a bit of a worry. I am a conspiracy theorist when it comes to work and the maneuverings of bosses.

    We "hot desk". It is bollocks of the highest order - real emperor's new clothes shite.

    My boss used to sit a lot of desks away. He now sits close to me every fucking day he's in.

    When he's not in, random other bosses turn up and sit next to me. None of them with anything to do with my work. Their own teams are yards away. They laugh it off with "we hot desk" crap if I jokingly ask why they have sat next to me. One even pretended he was hiding from his own team so he could get work done.

    It's bollocks. They are after me. I ballsed up last week. There was a stray big boss sitting behind me. The phone rang at 5 mins before going home time on Friday. I turned to the phone and said (shouted) Oh FUCK OFF. Remarkably the phone did stop ringing. Me and my mate sitting next to me laughed. The stray boss person behind me didn't.

    Needless to say, where I work, the correct response when the phone ringing 5 mins before going home time is " excellent! an opportunity to help the business".

    Not "FUCK OFF".

    I am so fucked off with the grief at work, I just wish the bastards would sack me and pay me off, but I am at that stage in life when I will never earn this much again so I stick it out.

    My colleague on the same grade is having to go part time because she has a diagnosed stress related problem. I am happy to help her out at work, but any reduction in work for her, I have to make up for.

    I am waiting for the "performance discussion", but fuck me I am going to play the stress card super quick.
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  24. May Kasahara

    May Kasahara pleasantly caving in

    Found out by chance yesterday that management haven't decided on if/when to put everyone's salary increments through, so, er, no one's getting one for the foreseeable future. I love my work but they are truly shit at communication.
  25. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan razzed up on scrumpy and injustice

    I've only been in the job four months, but already I need to work out a way of engaging with customers to the best of my abilities, but without bringing it home with me. There must be some way.
    Today has got to me though. Two sweet kids, twins, are at my work, trying to entertain themselves while their dad looks up sports cars online. They should be in school, but they tell me their dad doesn't have the petrol money to get them there.
    We tried to at least sign them up to the library so they could use the Internet and borrow books, but they said their dad didn't have time to fill in the forms , so a colleague offered to fill them in so he only had to sign them, but he refused and left with his kids.
    I find it hard to let things like this go. I've reported this to the relevant people, but i be really had to bite my lip to refrain from saying something unwise to the father.
  26. crossthebreeze

    crossthebreeze Well-Known Member

    Not so much a work frustration, but don't know where else to put it. I'm redundant from this job in about 5 minutes.

    Work colleagues and even manager really sweet earlier and have a really massive bunch of flowers and being taken out for a meal with them next week.

    Got a really long day of work at my other place tomorrow to use up funding that has to be spent by end of the month, and then my hours cut to a few hours a week there after easter (and only certain for a month) unless we get more funding in. Better than being laid off completely though.
  27. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

    Poor kids :(.
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  28. nadia

    nadia Well-Known Member

    Had to explain to project manger that i am too tired to work with 100kW systems safely.(was backed up my colleague fortunately) we have been telling him for at least three weeks his project plan is bollocks, had him backtrak weedle and lie. tomorrow i have an interview for a promotion but i may quit instead. I'd rather be unemployed than dead
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  29. dervish

    dervish if you flibble when you wibble, don't wobble

    If you do quit you have a perfect opportunity to do it in style in the interview, if you are calm and rational explaining why you don't think the position, or the job is for you they might pay attention. Realising that they may lose you entirely might make them do something about it.
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  30. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    My status is still indeterminate.

    Someone interfered in a legal agreement again, despite being told two days prior that they weren't to do it. They basically said that they were going to do what they wanted regardless of company policy.

    So have washed my hands of whatever they are doing. If it all goes sideways, tough.
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