Woodland Under Threat -- Attention those who enjoy walking in the Surrey Hills

Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by kabbes, Jun 29, 2010.

  1. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    Loads of errors in it though, which is a shame. The Mail piece is actually much more accurate, no doubt thanks to the journo spending an hour talking to the LHAG chair before writing it.

    Loads of press interest right now, which is a bit frustrating because it's at least a year too early. By the time public attention really matters, it'll no doubt have gone away. This is the problem with people turning up without really knowing what's happening of listening to those who do.
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  2. mauvais

    mauvais change has become unavoidable

    Whenever the costs of extraction and getting it to market exceed the revenue from the oil, which in all these marginal cases is highly likely to be the case, especially at the moment.
  3. Dan U

    Dan U Boompty

  4. Dan U

    Dan U Boompty

  5. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    It was certainly all kicking off this morning. It's ostensibly so that the Environment Agency can erect boreholes to monitor groundwater condition, which they need to do in advance of the drilling as a baseline, and these borehole monitors need to be fenced off. Suspicion, as ever, abounds, however, regarding if Europa and co are up to no good beyond what they are allowed to do at this point.
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  6. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    The all important traffic management plan is being heard by the Surrey County Council Planning Committee on August 2nd (tomorrow) at 10:30am in Kingston County Hall. The more people that are there, the more chance that the councillors hearing it will decide to refuse it. If you're anywhere nearby and can make it, please do.
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  7. ruffneck23

    ruffneck23 Well-Known Member

    I think I may be able to get there as not working tomorrow
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  8. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut ... the Great.

    I am not local, nor can I make it, but keeping fingers crossed.

    There's some background info on the DRILL OR DROP site:

    Leith Hill oil drilling could trap people in homes and put lives at risk – opponents warn

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  9. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

  10. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut ... the Great.

    Yep, and probably worth keeping an eye on 'Frack Free Surrey', and the DRILL OR DROP site, which is great for news from across the country & updated daily.

    Interesting figures here about the potential number of wells across the Weald, mainly in Sussex, but also across the borders into Hampshire, Kent, Surrey & including the South Downs National Park - anywhere between 1,200 & a very unlikely 34,000.

    Where could fracking in the Weald be leading if not stopped?
  11. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut ... the Great.

    Decision just deferred for now:

    Further delay for Europa’s oil drilling plans near Surrey beauty spot
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  12. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    Yes, it was in some ways a bit of a surprise win, but an eminently justified decision. A lot of work put in by LHAG before and on the day and some real grappling with the issues by certain councillors, who were not willing to just wave it through.
  13. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse In the AreA

    The big question is of course; Should I and the countless other urbanites be increasing or unloading our stock in Europa?
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  14. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    This particular case is about 1% of the size of their interests in the Irish Sea, so not that relevant to them. But judged in the way they run their business, I'd say sell sell sell...
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  15. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    I was chatting to an activist yesterday, she was recruiting & getting petition signups from a willing group of cyclists. Having done a fantastic ride around this beautiful part of England how could we not agree with the protest?

    It all just seems nuts in an AONB ???? Bloody Forestry Commission leasing off the land :mad:
  16. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    Those who are interested in just how fucked up our local council planning process actually is could use this whole thing as a hell of a case study. The failures of Surrey County Council are long documented in newsletters passim, but the latest fail from Mole Valley District Council is a nice microcosm of the whole thing, frankly. It’s written about here:

    Leith Hill Action Group Newsletter 54
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  17. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    Still no approval from SCC of the traffic management plan, following today’s planning committee. They did approve the fencing amendment though, which is just BEGGING for judicial review, frankly.
  18. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse In the AreA

    Top work there pwning SCC kabbes :thumbs: Please pass on respect to Mr N and his cohorts.
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  19. Ralph Llama


    Could you look after my m8 Elvis and his owner, please? He`s loverly really :D And will you be posting an eviction alert here because I don't do facebook and would like to be there in time.
  20. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    I'm sure Mr N took no end of satisfaction from penning that particular newsletter.
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  21. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    I think we might actually finally have won. Europa have been refused a renewal of their lease by the Forestry Commission. Hard to believe it is over but it could actually be over. Ten bloody years.
  22. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse In the AreA

    Whoop, whoop!


    Really well done to those on the LHAC, years of tenacious work against a backdrop of everyone telling them to just forget it, Europa would win, well you've fucking showed them!

    A masterclass on how to win against all the odds.

    And an ancient and stunning landscape, within sight of London, has been saved.
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2018
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  23. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    I recall the local MP Paul Beresford telling us about 9 years ago not to bother because we had no chance.
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  24. chainsawjob

    chainsawjob Kipping in the dunes

    Wow! Well done all involved.
  25. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Sounds good. That being said what is Europa's right of appeal?

    If a company has acted like this throughout it seems unlikely they'll just up sticks and leave without a fight themselves?
  26. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    Well, they haven't been refused anything legally. They've just had a decision from the Forestry Commission not to renew the lease. There isn't anything to appeal against officially. Unofficially, it seems that they did push back but were basically told by the relevant Government minister to bugger off. I think the small financial benefit of granting the lease has likely become simply too unattractive versus the enormous political backlash and cost of enforcing it.
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  27. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    I though the government were right behind fracking and thought it was just ace. Is this Gove's influence do you think or just a case of wrong location?
  28. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    The word coming to me is that it was Gove himself who put the kibosh on this. Who knows if that’s true. I think there are a lot of in and outs as to why if so. I need to decompress on it first to come to sense on it, to be honest.
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  29. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse In the AreA

    Meanwhile a few miles down the road... Direct action oil protesters hit with ban

  30. BigTom

    BigTom Well-Known Member

    Great news this :) well done to everyone involved.

    ah, "persons unkown". Happens I was around for the first of these injuctions, at the University of Birmingham, where "persons unknown" were given an injunction to make it illegal for them to occupy university property. In my case, the "persons unkown" were specified to be the people who had squatted a university property, but they didn't know their identities so couldn't specify who they were. Injunction never got used despite several occupations. Really don't see how it could be enforced, since it's not known who the injunction is actually against.
    I wonder if it's different in this case or if anyone taking direct action could claim that they are not the "persons unknown" referred to in the injunction.
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