Wonderfully Bonkers Hitchens Article

[butchersapron]

Do you also think that i wrote this spion?

Last week, the one-time Trotskyist attended an unknown number of meetings of the secretive, pro-IRA International Marxist Group an adult member of the pro-Soviet Communist Party once a member of the Young Communist League also an active Trotskyist membership of that KGB tool, the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament Marxist government slow-motion coup d’etat the Throne will be next.

Who knows how many others?

 

[IMR]

Met Hitchens once, not unpleasant but not at all 'clubbable', contrary to what you might expect from an older male journalist. He seemed slightly tense, can't remember much of the conversation; he said he thought the elderly were treated abominably/shockingly/outrageously in this country.

 

[dylans]

Getting embarassing now.

No just bored

 

[butchersapron]

Well here's a tip - actually look at the OP and read the link, then the thread.

 

[two sheds]

he said he thought the elderly were treated abominably/shockingly/outrageously in this country.

they're his main readership

 

[littlebabyjesus]

they're his main readership

A self-fulfilling prophesy then?

 

[two sheds]

A self-fulfilling prophesy then?

Yep, I'll swear reading the mail was what tipped my mum over into being afraid of the world outside

 

[Badger Kitten]

If I heard someone going on like that Hitchens in the pub, I'd think they were paranoid and needed to see their GP.

Why does the Mail keep running pieces by people with apparent mental health issues? First Liz Jones, now Hitchens.

 

[shagnasty]

I do get a bit confused about all this .the opinion of the left is that nu labour are tories in all but name ,of which i agree .but the right says that they are a bunch of commies .you can't have it all ways

 

[audiotech]

Para#1 - why is the ex-tory Hitchens attacking people for being ex-trots. Unless he is still one himself.

His brother Chris was in the International Socialists, as far as I'm aware Peter Hitchens was never a trot?

 

[butchersapron]

He certainly was. One of yours in fact.

 

[Fruitloop]

He is not even within shouting distance of reality. It's quite scary really!

 

[Fruitloop]

Egad, I've just read some more of his blog. The man needs psychiatric help, not a column in a national newspaper. It's the modern equivalent of putting the mentally ill on display for public entertainment.

 

[butchersapron]

Should we start a 'section peter Hitchens' facebook group? He needs help asap.

 

[Idris2002]

Come on

Do you all tug your forelocks to the local gentry in Roscommon, then?

Or have I misinterpreted your post?

 

[Fruitloop]

Should we start a 'section peter Hitchens' facebook group? He needs help asap.

Good idea. His reds under the bed paranoia is worryingly delusional.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

I love the fact that he uses Alan Sugar's peerage as proof of Labour's crypto Marxoid tendencies. I suppose he thought the same about Digby Jones, Lord Sainsbury etc...

 

[Rod Sleeves]

Fuck you. You call a braver man than yourself a murderer and you can expect to be called up on it. Magee was freedom fighter in a war of national liberation

You div. Started drinking early today?

 

[William of Walworth]

I love the fact that he uses Alan Sugar's peerage as proof of Labour's crypto Marxoid tendencies. I suppose he thought the same about Digby Jones, Lord Sainsbury etc...

 

[William of Walworth]

None of these people has ever been frank about his Marxist past or apologised for it or explained it. Almost all of them would have kept it secret if they could (just as Anthony Blair dishonestly denied his membership of that KGB tool, the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament).

Why the fuck should they apologise to YOU, you frothfoaming paranoid lunatic?

None of them, in my view, has given up the radicalism of the past. They have simply discovered that they can use Parliament to achieve a revolution they once thought would need barricades and red flags. And these, I stress, are only the ones we know about.

Best concealed far-left ultra-rad revolution I've ever been subjected to ....

 

[tar1984]

Egad, I've just read some more of his blog. The man needs psychiatric help, not a column in a national newspaper. It's the modern equivalent of putting the mentally ill on display for public entertainment.

Is he maybe on a major wind up?

 

[Fruitloop]

No, he's deadly serious. It's a funny thing with Hitchens, in that he can on occasions be really acute with his criticisms of Blair, the state of the modern Conservative party, the costitutional changes of the last couple of decades or so etc etc, but on other issues like drugs he is totally potty. A strange bundle of contradictions.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

On the whole I prefer him to his squealing shitcake brother.

 

[Roadkill]

No, he's deadly serious. It's a funny thing with Hitchens, in that he can on occasions be really acute with his criticisms of Blair, the state of the modern Conservative party, the costitutional changes of the last couple of decades or so etc etc, but on other issues like drugs he is totally potty. A strange bundle of contradictions.

Indeed. Hitchens is a weird one. On some levels I have quite a lot of time for him, even though I disagree with most of his beliefs and a lot of the conclusions they lead him to draw. But not all, by any means. At times he talks quite a lot of sense, especially on matters like ID cards, individual privacy and so on.

I enjoyed his tale recently about being threatened with arrest for noting down the registration number of a police car parked on double yellows whilst its occupants were getting a coffee from a nearby cafe. He was making the point that the police aren't and shouldn't be above even petty laws like parking regulations, and I don't think there are many who'd disagree with that.

On other matters I can understand where he's coming from, even if I don't agree. His views on drugs and sexual freedom, for instance, are logical and coherent, even though IMO they're completely wrong.

At times he just seems like a grumpy old man, disparaging pretty much everying that's changed over the last half-century and wasting his time pettily grumbling about things like iPods (needless to say, he doesn't like them). Again, that's comprehensible, even if it's a bit silly.

But just occasionally he comes out with some paranoid fantasy such as that column, and you start to question whether he's actually quite all there...

 

[Fruitloop]

On the whole I prefer him to his squealing shitcake brother.

Agreed. Better politics and way more entertainment value.

 

[butchersapron]

Very strong rumours from US over last few days of hitchens being close to being on the way out.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

On the way out in what way?

 

[butchersapron]

Healthwise. Only rumours but they are coming from people who have been close to him in the past.

 

[ska invita]

the fact that lots of new labour bods used to be left wing and involved in some good old fashioned left wing activity isnt a secret (though it is a distant memory), and that list of who did what has been wheeled out many a time - on these boards even.

Do they still have some kind of 'progressive' bone in their bodies - yes, they must do a little. Lets be generous: Third Way-ism was conceived as a tactical compromise, as was new labour in all its actions - the issue is hitchens reckons its all just a couple of steps away from a revolution, whereas everyone else thinks they're a bunch of sell outs. what he says isnt mad, its hopeful...its the same dream that keeps all those disgusted by new lab in the party. if only he was right.

* about CND - someone told me Kate Hudson is a stalinist - anyone got any more on the claim that CND is a KGB tool (other than the strategic speculation that by banning the bomb during the cold war etc.)

 

[butchersapron]

Hitchens thinks and argues nothing of the sort though