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Women's March on Washington

Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by Idris2002, Nov 25, 2016.

  1. pinkmonkey

    pinkmonkey 2.4 hour party person

    Solidarity with our sisters in the USA, celebration and recognition of the freedom and priviledge that I have now, those were some of my personal reasons. I marched with a group of women, we had a banner, we actually met women who didn't know our community group existed. We now have several more new members, which we hadn't expected to happen. So I made some new friends. This is why I love gatherings like this.
  2. pinkmonkey

    pinkmonkey 2.4 hour party person

    I actually had men mansplaining to me what my politics were/ why I was marching and then telling me I was wrong. Telling me I was wrong for being a Hillary supporter, that I protested against Brexit, telling me I am a neo liberal, none of which is true. Then they all keep bringing up Rotherham and abuse of Saudi women. Where are they getting this script from? As they all are spouting the same thing. But yeah, thanks for telling me this stuff, I had no idea. :facepalm:
  3. All those people have the power to stop right wing populism if they're willing to put some work into it. That's the frustrating thing about it for me.
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  4. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper It's a complicated world innit.

    So mansplaining is disagreeing with your politics? Huh?
  5. pinkmonkey

    pinkmonkey 2.4 hour party person

    :facepalm: mansplaining is explaining to me in a *really* patronising way, what my politics are and why I'm marching *and* getting it totally wrong, don't tell me I have to listen to this bullshit on here too?
  6. Sirena

    Sirena Don't monkey with the buzzsaw

  7. Looby

    Looby Well-Known Member

    Did you actually read that post?
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  8. pinkmonkey

    pinkmonkey 2.4 hour party person

    Let me mansplain for you:
    I was told I was an idiot for being a Hillary supporter - I'm not.
    I was told I'm a neoliberal -I'm not.
    I was told I as a bitter loser and I even marched for Brexit and I was sad I hadn't won. Nope.
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2017
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  9. Which idiot made those accusations?
  10. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper It's a complicated world innit.

  11. It sounds like a right winger.
  12. She doesn't support Hilary. Which she has stated.
  13. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper It's a complicated world innit.

    Ah, OK, that must have been my mis-reading, it read like they were to me, hence the confusion. Edited to not try and derail it even more!

    This was the sentence, can see how it reads both ways to me now, "Telling me I was wrong for being a Hillary supporter, that I protested against Brexit, telling me I am a neo liberal, none of which is true."
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2017
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  14. Geri

    Geri wasn't born to follow

    Twats in the CPGB-ML.
  15. They're twats about everything though.
  16. any stick at all to beat these fuckers with - i am easy on the concept behind it
  17. I was easy on the concept of the anti war marches whilst recognising that I was wasting my time and all of those people (a million?) could actually have an impact politically.
  18. Could UKIP mobilise 80k people in central London?


    So what are they doing right that those 80k people are doing wrong?
  19. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat lumpen proletaricat

    from tweeter

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  20. Its a good point, but does it not come down the the peculiarly brit theme we see in them stealth tories? is is harder to get support for something than against something?
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  21. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Perfectly Flawed

    As always, Angela has all bases covered...

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  22. Jeff Robinson

    Jeff Robinson Well-Known Member

    Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist)

  23. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat lumpen proletaricat

  24. that is utterly barking.
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  25. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat lumpen proletaricat

    i'd say it was closer to dagenham east
  26. emanymton

    emanymton A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.

    Why do you think ukip couldn't? Have they tried? It's not parties that get people out anyway, it's issues.
  27. crossthebreeze

    crossthebreeze Well-Known Member

    This was about a basic feminist issue that isn't attached to a particular party though. Lots of people are disgusted that a man who publicly admitted to sexual assault and harrassment, and has been accussed of rape, has been elected to such a powerful position, don't want abortion banned and women punished, and are against the racist statements that trump has made.
    Thats not going to map to votes or support for anything more specific.
  28. crossthebreeze

    crossthebreeze Well-Known Member

    I would also say that the biggest barrier to people who have come out on a march for the first time getting more deeply involved in anything political is the Labour Party. Any march which (rightly) involves the unions in its organisation will, because most unions are Labour-affiliated, end up with speakers and organisers from the Labour Party. And the Labour Party will deliberately do what they can to set the marches demands and accepted behaviour and terms of debate [from my particular local experience given half a chance they go further than this and will do what they can to shut down any dissent including undermining and sabotaging other attempts at organising (using labour-facing leftist groupsicles as enforcers if necessary) and even getting antifascists arrested].

    Trouble is, this doesn't even translate into lots of people joining and being active in the Labour Party because
    a) the Labour Party is still completely tainted by the Blair years - and this is even evident at marches and rallies like this - ie as treelover pointed out on another thread [though he dismissed the whole march because of it] Yvette Cooper who when in government concretely made disabled people's and single parents lives more difficult, spoke at the London Womens March.
    b) because of the Tory's massive funding cuts to council, Labour councils are currently implementing horrendous public service cuts.
    c) different parts of the party - including locally - are at war with each other
    d) Labour Party structures stifle activity

    And none of this will change until unions disaffiliate from Labour, or all the measures that reduced union power in the Labour Party are abolished (which won't happen), or an active base for mass organising coalesces outside the labour-affiliated unions (the next wave of interesting stuff seems to be coming from non-tuc unions and worker organising in areas the major unions don't reach (migrant workers, workers in the gig economy, agency workers etc)).
  29. Sirena

    Sirena Don't monkey with the buzzsaw

  30. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby it can't happen here Enforced Holiday Banned

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