Herbsman.
Nah Lotion, Pet, Nor Powder.
Yeah you're right bob, people should be allowed to write and send text messages while driving, because it's not always dangerous. OK?
Woman texting in car kills 24 yr old. What a f***ing c***
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kained&able
Here for the football.
ummm yeah i may have sent the odd very quick txt when driving normally no more then "in an hour and a half" or "no". but i have done it, i tend to only do it at lights or when im in a queue or at least go to the slow lane or something though.
but its not unheard of for me to do it and i have never been anywhere near an accident beacuse of it.
Flame away.
dave
but its not unheard of for me to do it and i have never been anywhere near an accident beacuse of it.
Flame away.
dave
Herbsman.
Nah Lotion, Pet, Nor Powder.
Why the fuck not wait though?
No disrespect Dave, but you hardly strike me as an 'always on' businessman on doctor or call. Why the fuck take the risk?
Even at the lights you want your wits about you. Cyclists pulling up alongside you, pedestrians proving numpties, the lights changing suddenly...
No disrespect Dave, but you hardly strike me as an 'always on' businessman on doctor or call. Why the fuck take the risk?
Even at the lights you want your wits about you. Cyclists pulling up alongside you, pedestrians proving numpties, the lights changing suddenly...
The whole hands-free issue is a bit of a smokescreen. It's not what your hands are doing, it's where attention is directed that is most important. Same goes for texting without looking, you're still thinking about the phone and what you're typing more than you should.
Andy the Don
Wise men say only fools..
No hope, kill someone with a gun or a knife you are looking at life, kill someone when pissed in a car or when not paying due care and attention you get a couple of years and driving ban..
as you say its fucked up..
kained&able
Here for the football.
yeah its a risk and i rarely do it. but i did it at lights the other day on the way to nosos' as he texted and asked me to do something so i quickly texted him at the traffic lights and occasionly if im running a bit late and someones asks where i am i send a quick. "20mins".
To be honest im probabley less distracted sending a 3 word text then i am changing my cd over.
Its not big or clever and is ceratinly a risk but its one i have taken every so often.
dave
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
I think it's a bad idea to spend ages fucking with your stereo too. I am curious to how me taking my phone and sending "40" to someone without glancing at the screen more than three times on a quiet motorway is more dangerous than trying to get the right track going. Or "stuck in traffic" when i've been still so long i've turned off the engine
You don't win a prize for doing the least dangerous pointlessly dangerous thing.
I doubt that's true to be honest. Changing a CD's a mechanical action, texting requires some physical and mental input. Going on the highly scientific 'tarannau's ability to truly follow a conversation with the OH' measure, I can easily change a cd whilst gibbering away, but my attention more often gets flakey whilst receiving or making a text.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
But we accept one as a risk we're willing to take, if the risk is comparable what justification is there to treat them differently?
Do we?
Keep your hands on the wheel and your eyes on the road. That is the law and all else is commentary.
I think texting whilst driving is very dangerous. About 2 years ago I was feeling good and all and was driving and a fiend texted me and I attempted to text back whilst driving. I was really shocked at how much I had to take my eyes off the road fully and look at the phone. I got a real fright and have never texted since. I think the woman in this case is suffeing from stupidity and immaturity - at 21 there is only time for so many things to go wrong in life and she hasn't experienced much. The 24 year old she killed will experience nothing. If I had killed a person as a result of texting I would be a mess and hold myself completely responsible. I would be unable to appear in court probably because would have had a nervous breakdown and been sent to a hospital somewhere. I would hope the guilt for her would be 'terrible'. If not jail then she should get a 10 year ban.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Except that she was reported to have sent @20 texts - which seems to suggest she was aware of the risks & not doing it as a one-off.
OK, I'm no angel either & I'll stick my hand-up to having sent a very few texts on the move when I first got a mobile but I quickly wised-up to the idea that this was a bloody stupid & dangerous thing to do. Same with talking on the phone, I don't have a hands free anymore & certainly don't pick-up on the move. I'll wait till I can pull over & stop.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Rubbish, you take your eyes off the road all the time, spedo, instrument pannel, petrol, rear view mirror, side mirrors (ok, so that's just bits of the road). Glances at passengers. All acceptable. Staring off into space is really stuipd but glancing away is safe.
Bob, are you seriously suggesting that changing the track on a cd, with its two or three simple control buttons and instant sound feedback is the same as trying to read and respond to a text, with smaller, fiddlier multifunction buttons and a tiny screen?
That's bad enough, but to compare a momentary glance at the speedo with making a text is simply asinine. You're protesting far too hard here.
That's bad enough, but to compare a momentary glance at the speedo with making a text is simply asinine. You're protesting far too hard here.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
I dunno mate murders trhough avoidable stupidity ie any reasonable person would consider that stupid are just as bad, it still equals the same for the victim...
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Try to keep threads of discussion together tarannau, the two are in no way similar nor have i said it. I have said that replying 40 can be done in a manner similar to that needed to fiddle with a stereo, i have said that you don't keep your eyes on the road all the time. Those are two different statements.
Yes, but you're deliberately confusing them for effect, unless you really pedantically view Alex B's 'taking your eyes off the road' issue as something that he meant set in stone. Which of course he didn't
I still disagree with you about the stereo as well. I'm glad that you're so keen to argue for your precious 'right' to text someone about your whereabouts though. I'm sure it's vitally important.
I still disagree with you about the stereo as well. I'm glad that you're so keen to argue for your precious 'right' to text someone about your whereabouts though. I'm sure it's vitally important.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
No more than any of the other ten threads i'm going to comment on today.
AlexB's maxim needed to be challenged, it can't stand as an ultimate fact without some dose of common sense, how much are you able to glance away and still be safe?
kained&able
Here for the football.
its not the chnaging the cd thats hard its finding the right one thats difficult. seraching through my cd's is way harder then texting.
she was sending 20? she being silly then.
dave
she was sending 20? she being silly then.
dave
No it didn't. Common sense interprets Alex B's 'eyes on the road' maxim as something flexible - you minimise your time not looking at the road for safety, also occasionally glancing away to maintain wider awareness. Common sense also dictates that using a phone to send surplus text messages that could wait is unnecessary, and that your 'principled' objection to a simple, logical rule is a load of guff. Why bother with the text?
There's an argument that music can soothe mood and help driving. Even so, manufacturers have tried to make control systems that minimise any risks (steering wheel mounted buttons, boot mounted carousels etc). You can't mitigate for lack of forward planning and clumsy stupidity (see Kained above) but no such provision exists for text messaging people, and for good reason too. If you really have to stay in touch and it's that vital to you, go voice activated and get a headset - it's not perfect, but it's better than trying to convince yourself that fumbling furtively with one hand under the steering wheel is a good way of driving.
kained&able
Here for the football.
If i plan in advance and put cd's on my passenger seat they invaribale fall down into the footwell.
dave
dave
DarthSydodyas
rusting
What this lady has done is no different to what Luke McCormick did, imo.
Herbsman.
Nah Lotion, Pet, Nor Powder.
You might be willing to take the risk, but are the other people who share the road with you willing for you to take the risk?
Could it be that - *gasp* - it's not all about you?
