Wobblies defend driver sacked for swearing - press release
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Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
the button said:
Also their own survival. The Morning Star reports obsequiously on the doings of union bureaucrats for the sound and logical reason that bulk orders from union bureaucracies are all that keep it going.
Red Leicester
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According to the Press Complaints Commission the editor of the Morning Star is on holiday for two weeks.
So the Morning Star's lie about Pat continues to remain unretracted.
If your organisation gives support to the Morning Star please demand that it immediately issues a statement of retraction and apology.
Thanks.
So the Morning Star's lie about Pat continues to remain unretracted.
If your organisation gives support to the Morning Star please demand that it immediately issues a statement of retraction and apology.
Thanks.
the button
out on the kocker
This being the case, this issue might be worth raising at trade union conferences -- maybe emergency resolutions or summat.Nigel Irritable said:
Jemmy Hope
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Something missing here: what did the chubby fellow say or do to get Bro. Spackman so riled up?
It's obvious what's going on here, the bloke's a thorn in management's side, so they're conspiring with the union full-timers to get rid of him. It's nothing new.
It's obvious what's going on here, the bloke's a thorn in management's side, so they're conspiring with the union full-timers to get rid of him. It's nothing new.
Here is the address for the Morning Star Letters Page if people wish to let them know how displeased they are with paper's craven attitude on this issue-
[email protected]
Best of luck to Pat and the IWW.
[email protected]
Best of luck to Pat and the IWW.
teqniq
DisMembered
Best of luck indeed. Interesting stuff. How exactly does a company justify hanging onto someone's p45 after they've sacked them? Incidentally I'm a member of Unison at the moment does anyone know off the top of their head whether they contribute to the morning star? If so they may well be getting an email requesting that they put pressure on the above 'publication' to apologise as suggested above.
Red Leicester
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Details of the argument will be produced at the Employment Tribunal hearing where the role in all this of the "senior lay union official" will become quite apparent.
This 1998 item on the Morning Star claims "Since the Berlin Wall came down, it has been supported for the most part by block sales to unions such as Unison and the Transport and General."
I don't know whether or not that is true but Unison certainly supports the paper by buying advertising space in it.
It would be helpful if union members, and even better branches, called on their national union not to support the Morning Star in any way until it issues a public retraction and apology to Pat Spackman.
Many thanks to everyone who has expressed solidarity on this thread. It really is much appreciated.
nightbreed
Im Bored
Nigel Irritable said:
I understand that the Coop has a contract to stock the paper. I know of three coops in Southampton that do. Also I have seen it for sale at one of the big local Tesco's.Whether this is the same all over the country , I neither know nor care.
Just pointing out, out of interest to anyone bothered, the TGWU is linked quite heavily to Tribune.Dont see any request to subscribe to Morning Star in branch correspondence.
Like Nigel I see the MS as a union bureaucrat 'fanzine'. Mind you , now and then there are some half decent articles in it.
Jemmy Hope
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Let us know when you've got a date Red.Red Leicester said:
Red Leicester
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Jemmy Hope said:
Will keep you up to date with developments but the ET won't be before October.
Red Leicester
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Link not working i'm afraid. (Is this R from the AF btw?)
Red Leicester
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riglet said:
Yes - it's been produced by a "supporter" of FGW (presumably a paid employee - I can't imagine anyone doing that for fun!). Interesting that FGW are resorting to blogging to improve their image!
Also interesting that they think it's positive that a stolen public asset returns just 15% of ticket revenue to the public purse!
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
our local co-ops stock the MS as well, tho they always seem to have the same number of copies in no matter what time of day you go in.nightbreed said:
best of luck to Pat - tho I doubt he'll need it as this looks like one of those pathetically typical cases where the boss thinks having to ultimately make a payout is worth it to get rid of someone. Quite a compliment in a way.
The problem is that when someone gets victimised, even if they get a big pay-off, the people still in the workplace are likely to draw the lesson that it's not worth putting your head above the parapet, cos it'll get blown off. It sets organisation and confidence in the workplace back for years - the next time someone says that people should stick up for themselves, peple are likely to say 'yeah so-and-so used to talk like that. They sacked him'.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
As a rule I totally agree, I'm really not sure how you could generalise from the particulars in this case tho, from what I know of it. I don't think anyone will be calling for a campaign to call 'senior lay representatives' 'fat cunts' as a way to overthrow capital.
Red Leicester
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newbie said:
Following receipt of a letter from Pat's solicitor, FGW have now paid some outstanding holiday pay and agreed to provide him with his P45.
Red Leicester
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Apparently the PCC hasn't had a reply from the editor of the Morning Star because he's been on leave.
Any guesses as to where he's gone?
North Korea?
China?
Cuba?
Any guesses as to where he's gone?
North Korea?
China?
Cuba?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Juche power!
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
butchersapron said:
Is that anything like nuclear power?
Louis MacNeice
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Louis MacNeice said:Is that anything like nuclear power?
Louis MacNeice
Hey, we signed the agreement and stuck by the terms.
Red Leicester
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Red Leicester said:
but still haven't
Red Leicester
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FGW respond
Last Friday, on the last day possible, First Great Western lodged a response with the Employment Tribunal to Pat's claim for unfair dismissal.
We are now waiting for the Tribunal's Chair to decide how to proceed.
Pat is looking forward to the tribunal hearing as it will give him a chance to publicly refute the lies told by the "senior lay union representative", the company representatives and the Morning Star.
Last Friday, on the last day possible, First Great Western lodged a response with the Employment Tribunal to Pat's claim for unfair dismissal.
We are now waiting for the Tribunal's Chair to decide how to proceed.
Pat is looking forward to the tribunal hearing as it will give him a chance to publicly refute the lies told by the "senior lay union representative", the company representatives and the Morning Star.
Red Leicester
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Please keep posting messages of support.
Pat's been dealing with this for over a year now.
He's up against his employer, his mainstream union and the Morning Star.
Please just give him a word or two of solidarity.
Pat's been dealing with this for over a year now.
He's up against his employer, his mainstream union and the Morning Star.
Please just give him a word or two of solidarity.
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