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Witnesses wanted for Stockwell shooting

Stobart Stopper said:
They did make appeals for ALL witnesses to come forward though, I think it was the day after, and yesterday. Can't work out why they are not very interested in your story.

I did come forward though. They've got my story and all my details (twice), including my home/work/mobile numbers and address. I aint heard nowt.
 
suethomason said:
No. I haven't been face-to-face with the police at all since they moved me on from the scene.

I think talking to the Met may now be superseded:

Independent Police Complaints Commission said:
If anybody has any information about the tragic shooting of Mr de Menezes I would urge them to contact the IPCC inquiry team on Tel: 020 7166-3995 or Fax: 020 7166-3695 or email: [email protected]

http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/news/pr290705_witnessappeal

I'd strongly recommend contacting the Independent Police Complaints Authority in writing to say you were a witness, with a small postscript saying that (or why) you'd rather not go to Stockwell to meet them.

I wouldn't send them a lot of detail right now - just a note that you have some detail.
 
laptop said:
I think talking to the Met may now be superseded:



I'd strongly recommend contacting the Independent Police Complaints Authority in writing to say you were a witness, with a small postscript saying that (or why) you'd rather not go to Stockwell to meet them.

I wouldn't send them a lot of detail right now - just a note that you have some detail.

Thank you for that. I've emailed them.
 
Sue:

Following incidents like this things are very confused and lots of things are happening at once. Sometimes it is not plain who is and who is not a witness and sometimes it is just plain impossible to take formal statements from everyone at once.

You should, if you have not already, make your own notes (i.e. without someone else prompting you) and sign and date them and keep them safe. If the police and/or the IPCC ave your details then you will be on a list of people to contact but, depending on how much detail of how involved you were is there, you may or may not have been prioritsed. In any event they will have thousands of equally important things to do simultaneously and so it may take weeks or months to get round to everything. These are not "normal" events.

"Pre-statements" (ie. notes of a verbal account) are taken where there is no time to take a formal statement or where there is an intention to come back and carry out an interview on video or audio tape (which is far more accurate). Either may, or may not, be the case here.

(StobartSpotter - send your hubby to research "Achieving Best Evidence" and the concept of "Significant Witnesses" in the Major Investigation Manual!)

The IPCC will most likely be the investigators who come and take your statement in due course but it may be police officers acting under their directions (they have very limited in-house resources). Either way, it will get back to them.

Don't worry about forgetting things - psychologists advice is that following traumatic incidents immediate statement taking is NOT the best - sometime after 3-4 days usually and with no significant loss of detailed recall for several weeks.

Good luck. Hope this helps.
 
detective-boy said:
Sue:



Don't worry about forgetting things - psychologists advice is that following traumatic incidents immediate statement taking is NOT the best - sometime after 3-4 days usually and with no significant loss of detailed recall for several weeks.

Good luck. Hope this helps.

Thanks, DB. It does. I'm going to go for a type of counselling where I have to recall the event in minute detail, so that should help with any statement I might have to give.

I haven't forgotten any of the facts. I've written them down and they haven't changed - even though my opinions have. The actual events can't be changed by my opinion. And I'm not worried about forgetting - I'm not likely to forget any of it for a very long time!
 
suethomason said:
Thanks, DB. It does. I'm going to go for a type of counselling where I have to recall the event in minute detail, so that should help with any statement I might have to give.

I haven't forgotten any of the facts. I've written them down and they haven't changed - even though my opinions have. The actual events can't be changed by my opinion. And I'm not worried about forgetting - I'm not likely to forget any of it for a very long time!


The Independent Police Complaints Commission have taken over the enquiry about the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes and they are coming to take a statement from me today, for any of those people who were interested in whether they were going to contact me.
 
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