Windows XP SP3 - Should I?

[Firky]

opera takes 15 million years to render web pages

Rubbish!

http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

So overall, Opera seems to be the fastest browser for Windows. Firefox is not faster than Internet Explorer, except for scripting, but for standards support, security and features, it is a better choice. However, it is still not as fast as Opera, and Opera also offers a high level of standards support, security and features.

On Linux, Konqueror is the fastest for starting and viewing basic pages on KDE, but as soon as script or images are involved, or you want to use the back or forward buttons, or if you use Gnome, Opera is a faster choice, even though on KDE it will take a few seconds longer to start. Mozilla and Firefox give an overall good performance, but their script, cache handling and image-based page speed still cannot compare with Opera.

On Mac OS X, Opera and Safari are both very fast, with Safari 2 being faster at starting and rendering CSS, but with Opera still being distinguishably faster for rendering tables, scripting and history (especially compared with the much slower Safari 1.2). Camino 0.8 is fast to start, but then it joins its sisters Mozilla and Firefox further down the list. Neither Mozilla, Firefox nor IE perform very well on Mac, being generally slower than on other operating systems.

On Mac OS 9, no single browser stands out as the fastest. In fact, my condolences to anyone who has to use one of them, they all perform badly.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

well then why is my WinXP SP2 total shit? If I could run all my software on Windows v 3.11 (WFW) then i'd do it.

I've been using bleedin' Windows since version 2.0 back in the late 1980s and XP sucks!

then you'd be hacked to fuckery... it's precisely the backwards copatitblites with 3.1 and above which have caused all the security problesm now please don't make me defend microshaft but stop talking out of your arse...

 

[Kanda]

ok i'll try that out, thanx

So you're now towing the previous line that it's the user that causes the problem?

The above is pretty standard practice.

 

[jæd]

The above is pretty standard practice.

Only at companies which know what they're doing. Its a pity that the Administrator account isn't disabled by default (like Ubuntu + OS X). That would've solved a lot of Xp's problems...

The vast majority of consumer users run Xp as Administrators. Imagine how screwed the average Linux computer would be if you run as root 24/7...?

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

So you're now towing the previous line that it's the user that causes the problem?

when is that not the case...

it's always been that little knowledge is a dangerous thing and doublly so with computers...

hence people still opening attachements form people they don't know, still getting viruses still runnign naked on the net still pissing around and not acutally taking any sensible precautions ....

The above is pretty standard practice.

standard practice in managed well planned out systems or becuase the person running the system knows what they are doing...

I disagree that it's running in administrator which causes the problem, all my machines bar the macs and the nix run as admin and nary a problem between near 20 mnachines.... fook all, but then i know what i'm doing and have proctected my machines so there's no need to run as lock down machines. (yes i know that techncially things could install as admin which couldnt' with locked down but in reality they aren't goign to unless i do something ignorant or monumentally stupid...

 

[Firky]

Only at companies which know what they're doing. Its a pity that the Administrator account isn't disabled by default (like Ubuntu + OS X). That would've solved a lot of Xp's problems...

The vast majority of consumer users run Xp as Administrators. Imagine how screwed the average Linux computer would be if you run as root 24/7...?

I downloaded Ubuntu but have'd installed it as I need Photoshop - what's so good about it? Heard loads of fuss but never read it.

 

[jæd]

I downloaded Ubuntu but have'd installed it as I need Photoshop - what's so good about it? Heard loads of fuss but never read it.

Its Free (and legal), and very, very stable... Why not try the LiveCd version to see if you like it...?

The Ubuntu alternative to Photoshop is called "The GIMP"...

 

[Xanadu]

Is ubuntu really any more stable than any other linux distro?

 

[Firky]

Its Free (and legal), and very, very stable... Why not try the LiveCd version to see if you like it...?

The Ubuntu alternative to Photoshop is called "The GIMP"...

I might whack it on the desktop for a laugh, I have about three HDD in there so could just boot from one of them. The Gimp is no where near as good as photoshop. One day I will have a mac -should have got one instead of this laptop!

 

[jæd]

Is ubuntu really any more stable than any other linux distro?

No... Its just a fancier version of Debian... If you want something more stable then you need to either look at BSD, or perhaps even think about Solaris...

 

[Detroit City]

No... Its just a fancier version of Debian... If you want something more stable then you need to either look at BSD, or perhaps even think about Solaris...

Does HP make a version of Linux? Sort of like an HP-UX lite?

 

[Firky]

No... Its just a fancier version of Debian... If you want something more stable then you need to either look at BSD, or perhaps even think about Solaris...

Downloading it now, should be ready in ten minutes or so. Don't have time to do it today but will wahck it on nextweek.