bloody 'ell...wot's your secret?Kanda said:I've managed for years to not click wrong websites though....
Windows XP SP3 - Should I?
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GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
firefox si full of holes. opera for the real win...
Fez909
toilet expert
firky said:Firefox is bloated shite and is only popular cos it has a cool name. Opera is a man's browser.
Firefox isn't bloated. It is a lightweight, fast, safe browser which just happens to have a load of cool stuff you can add on to it. It's not the fault of Firefox if people add twenty or so extensions, which can be written by anyone (there's no quality control as far as I know?), and then suffer slowdown on their system.
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
opera takes 15 million years to render web pages
that may be a slight exaggerationDivisive Cotton said:
I can't see any machine with XP Pro running 24/7/365 without any errors or shutdowns. That would be impossible.Tony Numbers said:
I've been working in IT systems for 20 years almost and I've seen fault tolerant systems in action and bleedin' XP boxes are not one of them.
Xanadu said:
Microsoft has said they're "sorry" for the state of the security in Xp...
http://apcmag.com/6900/microsoft_we_let_you_down_with_xp
Windows is the only o/s to still get viruses...
Not looking good for xp, is it...?
there are UNIX systems that have 99.999% uptimes. Tandem has systems that have even greater uptimes.Xanadu said:
No one is going to show me an XP box thats been up and running for 5 years without any problems.
Windows NT 4.0 was much more stable than bleedin' XP...
well it's obviously not connected to the internet or any other outside source of data.Iam said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not the great defender of XP.
But it is possible to run it in a stable fashion - especially on a domain - and it's possible to not contract virii. There's also never been a software firewall on that laptop, which I used for various contract IT roles, as a home media player, BitTorrent downloader, carry around PC and main PC for a good few years.
Until I got an Apple.
But it is possible to run it in a stable fashion - especially on a domain - and it's possible to not contract virii. There's also never been a software firewall on that laptop, which I used for various contract IT roles, as a home media player, BitTorrent downloader, carry around PC and main PC for a good few years.
Until I got an Apple.
jæd said:Microsoft has said they're "sorry" for the state of the security in Xp...
http://apcmag.com/6900/microsoft_we_let_you_down_with_xp
Windows is the only o/s to still get viruses...
Not looking good for xp, is it...?
*looks at date*
Anything to bump vista sales eh?
well then why is my WinXP SP2 total shit? If I could run all my software on Windows v 3.11 (WFW) then i'd do it.Iam said:
I've been using bleedin' Windows since version 2.0 back in the late 1980s and XP sucks!
Detroit City said:
99.999% != 100%
I'm not trying to say Windows XP is the most rock-solid OS in the world, just that it's possible to run XP without it infected with stupid amounts of spyware and crashing every 5 minutes. The default settings suck balls - but with a little care, it's perfectly possible.
The only reason my current desktop only gets turned off is to save on electricity, and when it gets moved about. Once the basic patches are installed, I don't bother with the rest (cos I don't mind living on the edge
).
yea well something was lost in the translation from NT to XP. all i'm saying is that a backward step was taken instead of a forward step.Xanadu said:
Detroit City said:
NT 3.51 was pretty solid. From NT351 to NT4, there was a massive loss in reliability, mainly from allowing poorly written drivers from 3rd-party manufacturers into kernel-space. NT4 to 2000 was a massive step forward. And as soon as driver signing came into the picture, things got a LOT better.
We have a few servers in our current office running NT4, some running win2000 server and loads running win2003 server. Our Windows 2003 Server machines are running beautifully. The NT4 servers are a little bit shit to be honest (same hardware). We have some Linux servers running VMware server, and they are running extremely well too. All of the servers run quite high loads too.
I will agree with thatXanadu said:
DC, do me a favour:
Install windows doing the following:
1) before formatting, download a free software firewall
2) as soon you've formatted and reinstalled windows, and install the software firewall, then connect to the internet again and download the latest patches
3) try to download WHQL drivers for as much of your hardware as possible. If there isn't such a driver, question the quality of the hardware then install the normal driver.
4) install all of your essential applications, but no eye-candy-only apps
5) create a new user using the new user wizard. Ensure the user is marked as limited, not computer administrator
6) put a password on all users on the computer
7) for day to day running of your computer run as the limited user
8) ensure automatic updates are set to auto
Either that, or install something like ubuntu or get a mac. Everyone should find the operating system that suits them. If you're used to windows, and can't be bothered to learn a new OS, then run windows, but take some security precautions. If you're happy to shift hardware and OS, give mac a go. If you want a free, reliable OS and don't mind a little learning, go for ubuntu.
Install windows doing the following:
1) before formatting, download a free software firewall
2) as soon you've formatted and reinstalled windows, and install the software firewall, then connect to the internet again and download the latest patches
3) try to download WHQL drivers for as much of your hardware as possible. If there isn't such a driver, question the quality of the hardware then install the normal driver.
4) install all of your essential applications, but no eye-candy-only apps
5) create a new user using the new user wizard. Ensure the user is marked as limited, not computer administrator
6) put a password on all users on the computer
7) for day to day running of your computer run as the limited user
8) ensure automatic updates are set to auto
Either that, or install something like ubuntu or get a mac. Everyone should find the operating system that suits them. If you're used to windows, and can't be bothered to learn a new OS, then run windows, but take some security precautions. If you're happy to shift hardware and OS, give mac a go. If you want a free, reliable OS and don't mind a little learning, go for ubuntu.
Iam said:
We're getting rid of the NT4 machines - not really necessary these days. All of our clients have shifted to either 2000 or 2003. As for security, our (MS technology-based) internet banking package hasn't been cracked to this day, and it's in action in various banks all over the world.
ok i'll try that out, thanx
I'd be happier if you tried that out, then moved to some distro of linux or a mac instead of moving now. Just to get a picture of what's best for you.
I've found this combination works for me: FreeBSD on my personal webserver (possibly switching to OpenBSD), windows XP pro on my desktop and windows 2000 server (under VMware) on my dev machines at work.
I've found this combination works for me: FreeBSD on my personal webserver (possibly switching to OpenBSD), windows XP pro on my desktop and windows 2000 server (under VMware) on my dev machines at work.
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