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Pirated versions have generally been hacked to buggery to get the bits that report your hardware hashes to MS and other activation gubbins removed. As with so many other things, the pirates provide a superior product to what the powers that be would sell to us... it's only if you install a legitmate version of XP or Vista that all of your stuff gets reported :)

http://www.technibble.com/windows-xp-activation-explained/
 
so how can i know if that's the case if i decide to download a pirate of xp? believe me id rather use the original but given how bloody expensive it is i don't have much choice if i want an os that isn't from the stone ages.
 
On that I dunno, this is just word from the grapevine. My guess is you'd want to spend some googling the issue, since it's not unknown for some warez OS's to be trojaned as well (although they're generally taken down sharpish).

I don't advodate pirating it though. I'm generally of the opinion that if you can't afford it you shouldn't be using it. Cue my Linux cheerleading act ;)
 
Ubuntu is pretty cheap as these things go ;) but most people get put off by it not running most windows programs. If you want a copy of XP for free, your only option is to pirate, or if you want to stay in a legal grey area you can coerce a student friend to buy you a cheap educational copy.
 
wishface said:
buying the key costs £95.

ridiculous.

can you download all the updates separately and install them without having to go online when installing xp?
Not as far as I know :(

But you can avoid the MS websites by using WindizUpdate
Good reasons to use WindizUpdate

* No personally identifiable information is collected from your computer.
* No more unwanted spyware -- Microsoft Internet Explorer can finally be removed from your computer (if that were possible).
* It lists just the updates you need. If an update has been superceded by a newer one, it will not ask you to install the older one.
* Using enhanced data from MBSA, WindizUpdate will find more security patches needed for your O/S than the "other" website.
* If there is a security issue with a component that is not yet installed, it will not ask you to update it. For example, if you have not installed hyperterminal, it will not update it.
* It is not restricted to just Microsoft products. Software from other vendors can also be updated.
* Upgrading to the latest version of Internet Explorer is not considered a Critical Update!
* Works on Windows versions no longer supported by Microsoft -- Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 95
* Our plugin is not an ActiveX control.
* Integrated download manager with error detection -- you can cancel downloads at any time, and the next time you wish to install the cancelled update, it will continue from where it left off. Only corrupted sections of the file are redownloaded.

If you are still not convinced that WindizUpdate is the site for you, please check out our page titled "do we need to say any more?
 
what?

can i get a straight answer please, i'm getting very ffrustrated with all this cryptic nonsense. How can you use windiz if you havent' installed windows first?
 
wishface said:
what?

can i get a straight answer please, i'm getting very ffrustrated with all this cryptic nonsense. How can you use windiz if you havent' installed windows first?


I think what they're saying is. you Can install a pirate version. i.e. one with the WGA stuff removed. Then use that site to get patches.
 
on a side note.

If I build a PC and stop using the old one. Can I reinstall XP Home from the CD and licence used on the old machine? I don't want to buy Vista yet.
 
xenon said:
on a side note.

If I build a PC and stop using the old one. Can I reinstall XP Home from the CD and licence used on the old machine? I don't want to buy Vista yet.

I recently had to replace a hard drive, and I just reinstalled using same CD/licence. You get the MS check then just have to install all the updates/service packs. Long old process though.
 
ive gotten hold of a version of xp but every time i try and boot it (on my other comp, not risking this one before i know it will at least basically load) it says setup cant run from dos. how else do you install it then?
 
xenon said:
I think what they're saying is. you Can install a pirate version. i.e. one with the WGA stuff removed. Then use that site to get patches.

Quicker to use a pirate version that has a WGA crack installed, tbh...!
 
wishface said:
ive gotten hold of a version of xp but every time i try and boot it (on my other comp, not risking this one before i know it will at least basically load) it says setup cant run from dos. how else do you install it then?
You burn it on to a CD and boot from the bios.
 
afaik the disc works; i put it on this machine and it brought up the installation menu and the contents seem valid. Unfortunately booting from the bios (i slected boot from cd) just says invalid system disk.

ive had enough of all this shit. between pirate bollocks and mircocunt im fucked off with it all.
 
cesare said:
I recently had to replace a hard drive, and I just reinstalled using same CD/licence. You get the MS check then just have to install all the updates/service packs. Long old process though.

I want to do a total rebuild though. basically just keeping the case and soundcard. It would basically be a new PC. If I can use my disk, I'll try and download SP2 as an executable to install it offline. My disk is from pre SP2 days. Don't fancy letting that loose on the net.

I'm guessing i'd have to get a new licence. Probably easier just to buy a fresh copy.
 
xenon said:
I want to do a total rebuild though. basically just keeping the case and soundcard. It would basically be a new PC. If I can use my disk, I'll try and download SP2 as an executable to install it offline. My disk is from pre SP2 days. Don't fancy letting that loose on the net.

I'm guessing i'd have to get a new licence. Probably easier just to buy a fresh copy.

I don't know tbh. I'm not sure what MS check with their authentification prog.
 
wishface said:
afaik the disc works; i put it on this machine and it brought up the installation menu and the contents seem valid. Unfortunately booting from the bios (i slected boot from cd) just says invalid system disk.

ive had enough of all this shit. between pirate bollocks and mircocunt im fucked off with it all.

Jesus. you're always so frigging angry. Calm down man. Everyone gets these annoyances.
 
xenon said:
I want to do a total rebuild though. basically just keeping the case and soundcard. It would basically be a new PC. If I can use my disk, I'll try and download SP2 as an executable to install it offline. My disk is from pre SP2 days. Don't fancy letting that loose on the net.

I'm guessing i'd have to get a new licence. Probably easier just to buy a fresh copy.
You're getting into dodgy territory (the sorts of dodgy territory that Microsoft is always getting into hot water over) with the moving of the licence. The law says that it should be fair use as it's your copy of windows to install wherever you like, but MS isn't going to make it easy.

I'd say install and attempt to activate it, if it doesn't work you might need a new code from MS, but don't waste any extra money - you should be allowed to do this.

If you're dead lucky though the serial won't have been registered at all as a lot of hardware OEMs just use a bulk-register number and rely on the right bios hash being on the machine.
 
wishface said:
what do you expect? im stuck with an OS that isn't supported anymore and can't run anything.

I ran Windows 95 laptop with 135 MHZ 32 MB, until March 2003. Now that was shit.
 
subversplat said:
You're getting into dodgy territory (the sorts of dodgy territory that Microsoft is always getting into hot water over) with the moving of the licence. The law says that it should be fair use as it's your copy of windows to install wherever you like, but MS isn't going to make it easy.

I'd say install and attempt to activate it, if it doesn't work you might need a new code from MS, but don't waste any extra money - you should be allowed to do this.

If you're dead lucky though the serial won't have been registered at all as a lot of hardware OEMs just use a bulk-register number and rely on the right bios hash being on the machine.


hmm. Will have to see what happens. Not happening for a couple of months yet.
 
wishface said:
what do you expect? im stuck with an OS that isn't supported anymore and can't run anything.

You've got three options:

* Get a dodgy copy, and stop worrying all the time.
* Pay up for a legit copy. As I think I've mentioned the quickest way to get this is an OEM copy from an online store
* Get something else. Probably Ubuntu.

Personally I'd go for the last as you're off Mr Gates is upgrade escalator...
 
jæd said:
You've got three options:

* Get a dodgy copy, and stop worrying all the time.
* Pay up for a legit copy. As I think I've mentioned the quickest way to get this is an OEM copy from an online store
* Get something else. Probably Ubuntu.

Personally I'd go for the last as you're off Mr Gates is upgrade escalator...
1. what do u think i was referring to above
2. can't afford it.
3. I'm not installing something that nothing will run on that i've never heard of, where's the sense in that?
 
Then your choice is made for you.

your choices are made. You don't want to stick with what you've got.

1. Try another pirate copy. Take your chances. Find out what others have done.
2. Try and get the money. (this falls outside the remit of this thread)
3. investigate Ubuntou or some other Linux.
 
wishface said:
1. what do u think i was referring to above
2. can't afford it.
3. I'm not installing something that nothing will run on that i've never heard of, where's the sense in that?
You can't get a cracked copy working yourself, you won't pay for a legit copy you could get pukka support on and won't even consider the option of a different OS.

Do you have any mates who work in IT because otherwise it looks like you're fucked !
 
Radar said:
You can't get a cracked copy working yourself, you won't pay for a legit copy you could get pukka support on and won't even consider the option of a different OS.

Do you have any mates who work in IT because otherwise it looks like you're fucked !
doesn't it just.
 
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