Wind turbines. I love them. You?

[chainsaw cat]

Ah,I thunked you meant from the turbines - as a h&s manager in a turbine firm I had a nasty moment there.


Mind you, falling off them is definately a health risk.

 

[free spirit]

It's not the way they look that people object to (Afaik) its the noise pollution and they do make a racket - even my little one makes such a noise when its really windy, it keeps me awake at night and I have to unplug it (which defeats the object, TBH). I guess I'm kind of neutral about them - I inherited mine. My solar panels are far more effective at producing electricity.

there's no way you can judge the noise you get from a big turbine from the noise from your little one though.

not sure which little turbine you've got, but I'll make a stab at an old air 403 or similar, which have the major design flaw of essentially flapping the blades in high winds to act as the braking mechanism to stop it spinning too fast... this means they're really noisy in high winds as you describe, which is (and always was IMO) an utterly stupid design flaw for any turbine, but particularly one that's marketed for use on caravan sites, boats, houses etc. so will be making a lot of noise near to people trying to sleep.

The big turbines don't use entirely different methods to slow them down or stop them in high winds, and therefore don't have the same noise problem.

 

[ericjarvis]

I love them, but I couldn't eat a whole one.

 

[8ball]

I like the look of the wind turbines, but then when I was a kid I was also a big fan of pylons.

My opinion of them is quite uninformed - I wouldn't mind the landscape being scattered with them if they were a really good way of generating renewable energy, but recent comments in some quarters about harnessing social censure to shut up people who don't like them rubs me up the wrong way a bit.

They would be great if we had a way of storing energy to match demand, but without that kind of thing I can't see them making a major contribution.

 

[madzone]

but recent comments in some quarters about harnessing social censure to shut up people who don't like them rubs me up the wrong way a bit.

^^^

This. You're made to feel like you're wishing death and destruction on the human race if you say you don't like them. That's just on a personal level as well..

They would be great if we had a way of storing energy to match demand, but without that kind of thing I can't see them making a major contribution.

Me neither, which is why I'd like to see a lot more thought given before people are allowed to stick a great big, black blot on the landscape on their land.

 

[boskysquelch]

All turbines currently installed contribute more to the National Grid than is taken directly from them for localised use.....or at worst equal.

Storage issues for later use is of course installed at the same time....and of course the storage(however temporary) is provided within the NT. AFAIK currently the "extra" juice is being used to flatten out excess demands eg kettle flicking during Corrie/BB/when peeps draw themselves away from Boxes of Joy.

But HEY!,,,,you never know those very same electrons maybe used to blast some needed therapy into the head of a brain tumour via a peripatetic lab...to scan a tit or three...or even blast a few kidney stones into oblivion...but yeah...fuck that shit...smelly lorry travelling fuckers going around county extending life and bringing relief to the afflicted.

Public meetings are also available for those to object if they wish. many more objections are successful in denying permission to install than are installed. However this is changing slowly.

Yes, of course, you have to consider the needs of your descendants, if you are able. If you don't like it... get off the Planet...quite a few of us would like it still to be here with the Joys of Life we have attained...use of lekky is Useful... if you don't like it...turn it off and do something more productive with the minutes you have left for your own eventual demise...tick tick tick tick tick(sic).

 

[8ball]

Any chance of a translation?

 

[cesare]

I really like them. Does anyone remember those really early ones ... there was a particular place on the way down to the West country ... used to make me shiver in a spooky-scifi-good sort of way.

 

[spacemonkey]

All turbines currently installed contribute more to the National Grid than is taken directly from them for localised use.....or at worst equal.

Storage issues for later use is of course installed at the same time....and of course the storage(however temporary) is provided within the NT. AFAIK currently the "extra" juice is being used to flatten out excess demands eg kettle flicking during Corrie/BB/when peeps draw themselves away from Boxes of Joy.

But HEY!,,,,you never know those very same electrons maybe used to blast some needed therapy into the head of a brain tumour via a peripatetic lab...to scan a tit or three...or even blast a few kidney stones into oblivion...but yeah...fuck that shit...smelly lorry travelling fuckers going around county extending life and bringing relief to the afflicted.

Public meetings are also available for those to object if they wish. many more objections are successful in denying permission to install than are installed. However this is changing slowly.

Yes, of course, you have to consider the needs of your descendants, if you are able. If you don't like it... get off the Planet...quite a few of us would like it still to be here with the Joys of Life we have attained...use of lekky is Useful... if you don't like it...turn it off and do something more productive with the minutes you have left for your own eventual demise...tick tick tick tick tick(sic).

Errr whut?

 

[spacemonkey]

But ... I don't know offhand how many km the average UK motorcar does in a day, or what proportion of our energy "needs" is consumed by cars. But I get from this that wind energy is not going to be nearly enough in national terms.

Here's where that snippet came from, btw.

Good post. I almost quoted the same chapter out of 'without the hot air'

Can you imagine us getting even close to 10% coverage. It would require twice the current installed capacity of the entire globe.

 

[cesare]

Well I understood it. Just read it carefully.

 

[spacemonkey]

Well I understood it. Just read it carefully.

The first couple of paragraphs were wrong, then there was some rambling about truck drivers and I lost interest.

 

[8ball]

The first couple of paragraphs were wrong, then there was some rambling about truck drivers and I lost interest.

And creepy crawlies.

Don't forget the creepy crawlies.

Some would say it's pretty early to be on the whisky, but medical evidence apparently shows that the best time to drink is about 10.30am . . .

 

[cesare]

And creepy crawlies.

Don't forget the creepy crawlies.

Some would say it's pretty early to be on the whisky, but medical evidence apparently shows that the best time to drink is about 10.30am . . .

He's teetotal.

 

[spacemonkey]

He's teetotal.

That's no excuse.

 

[8ball]

He's teetotal.

And we all know what they're like when they fall off the wagon . .

 

[cesare]

And we all know what they're like when they fall off the wagon . .

Why are you being so unpleasant?

 

[boskysquelch]

... there was a particular place on the way down to the West country ... used to make me shiver in a spooky-scifi-good sort of way.

Delabole was the first created by people who bothered. The Edwards family...that jus went back into The Grid

Carland Cross, near Truro was where they did a lot of 28 Days filmage.

And then Goonhilly, The Lizard was quite an early one too...that'll be with the gurt Satellite Dishes...but more Grid orientated re-supply to locaal/experimental than most.

 

[8ball]

Why are you being so unpleasant?

Was just joshing. Bosky's a sound sort but he also generally uses things like grammar.

Since you're the one with the inside track would you be able to translate that post into something resembling English.

I'd hazard a guess at 'I like wind turbines', judging from the first sentence but tbh it could mean 'I like spiders' or 'I don't like lorries with brain tumour scanning equipment in them'.

 

[cesare]

Delabole was the first created by people who bothered. The Edwards family...that jus went back into The Grid

Carland Cross, near Truro was where they did a lot of 28 Days filmage.

And then Goonhilly, The Lizard was quite an early one too...that'll be with the gurt Satellite Dishes...but more Grid orientated re-supply to locaal/experimental than most.

I'm thinking years ago here, before they extended the motorway. A-road -> hill. Wish I could remember the name of it. They're still there now I think.

 

[boskysquelch]

Carland Cross on the North East side of Truro is the one that is on the flatland below the banking rising end of the A30 dual carriage bit that come down from Fraddon Cross/Victoria Inn/Goss Moor/Bodmin, just after the Newquay/Mitchell turnoff. They are v dramatic because as you take the rise up the last section the fins appear rotating along the roadside at eye level.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carland_Cross

But the "black blots" being discussed are this sort..er... I'll have to find/take a pickee laters.

in the meanwhile...

http://relubbusroundup.blogspot.com/

 

[cesare]

From your description, I think that's it bosky. Though I'd thought that there were turbines there before 92, but mebbe my memory's playing tricks.

I take it that it was just that first section of the relubbus blog that related to this (That's a ranty blog innit!)