William Rodriguez talk London Monday July 9

Discussion in 'Compendium Of Kerrrr-azy Conspiracies' started by sparticus, Jul 3, 2007.

  1. sparticus

    sparticus New Member

    William Rodriguez, leading 911 truth and peace campaigner and the last
    man out of the world trade centre talks at Indian YMCA

    Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:30 pm

    William Rodriguez talks 7.30pm at the Indian YMCA, Fitroy Square, London
    WC1, near Warren Street and Great Portland Street underground stations.

    Free admission
     
  2. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone post tenebras lux

    Excellent. I've always wanted to see the Muppet Show live.
     
  3. MooChild

    MooChild Made of Straw

    Buy tin foil shares immediately.
     
  4. editor

    editor hiraethified

    "911 truth and peace campaigner " LOL
     
  5. Plato1983

    Plato1983 New Member

    Who is Rodriguez?

    I hope he is not one of those conspiracy loons that thinks the Jews/Freemasons/Aliens/whatever other mystic power was behind the 9/11 event.
     
  6. In Bloom

    In Bloom Joyless and full of hate

  7. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    He is the 'last man out of the World Trade Centre alive'. A genuine hero if ever there was one. As a lowly janitor who just happened to have one of five master keys to the World Trade Centre Complex, and who knew the towers inside out, he helped save hundreds of lives on 9/11 by his own efforts and by assisting the fire crews. He was feted as the hero he is by the US political establishment, but he soon realised they were editing his story out, so he now tours telling his story instead. He's turned down Hollywood deals so he can tell it the way it is.

    Hope that helps.
     
  8. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Oh he hasn't done too bad out of it, you know.

    PS There were lots of heroes that day. Most of them didn't make it out alive, but I guess you're not interested in any of the heroes that did because they're not prepared to dance along to your raving conspiraloon caravan.

    Funny that, isn't it?
     
  9. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone post tenebras lux

    Bollocks, missed this. And I needed a good laugh as well. Oh, well.
     
  10. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone post tenebras lux

    I wonder what the emerging conspiracy will be about last weekend's failed attacks. That bloke who set himself on fire. Hypnotised by MI5 Derren Brown black op agents?
     
  11. nuffsaid

    nuffsaid But this goes up to 11

    Listening to James Whale show on Talksport (as you do) some bloke phoned in saying he was cautioned under new anti-terrorism laws for handing out leaflets advertising a Rodriguez talk. That seems a tad over the top I would have thought - free speech and all that.
     
  12. editor

    editor hiraethified

    If it's true, of course.

    Which I doubt.
     
  13. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Oh, I'm sure there'll be a suitably fantastic, reality-defying version of events coming up soon from the sick conspiraloon cunts.
     
  14. 8den

    8den No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...

    Thats a load of bullshit right there.

    Willie worked with James Randi a few years ago. Another Randi employee had this to say to William.

    Rodriguez, wasn't the last man pulled out of the towers those were two cops Will Jimeno and John McLoughlin, pulled out 24 hours later. May have heard of them little fella called Stone made a film about them.

    As to saving hundreds, Rodriguez talks that up a bit.

    You can read all about him exagerating and talking up the numbers here

    In fact look at this site It exposes Rodriguez's lies and dishonesty. You'd particularly like this bit Jazzz, its about Rodriguez speaking at a Neo Nazi conference in America, and touring and speaking with the American Free Press. Y'know those wacky anti Semite Holocaust deniers.

    Rodriguez did a brave thing that day, and since then has been peddling lies and deceit to the weak and the gullible.
     
  15. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Be sure to answer these points about your hero, Jazzz.
     
  16. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    Well that other Randi employee is welcome to his opinion, I wonder if he has heard him speak.

    I have, and I have no doubt that the reason he does is because he has a message to convey about what happened that day. That is what is important to him. He already did countless interviews after 9/11, has had film and book deal offers which he's turned down. One couldn't hope to meet a more modest guy, after his talk he stays pretty much until he's shaken hands with the last punter that comes up to him.

    Sorry, but the line that he's doing this for personal aggrandisement doesn't really wash, and I'm sure if you met him you wouldn't think so, whatever you may think of 9/11.

    Well we're being pedantic here aren't we. I suppose the correct soubriquet is 'last civilian out of the World Trade Centre alive' which has also mentioned. Alternatively, you could say that he's the last man who got out before it collapsed. Take your pick, I'm not going to quibble.

    Does he? It's a bit much thrusting that very ill-researched article in front of me, when I've heard the full story.

    .

    Salvatore Giambanco springs to mind as one person Rodriguez can claim full credit for saving, you'll hear about him once you've bothered to hear WR's first-hand account, of course. And it seems perfectly reasonable that his efforts saved hundreds more, of course you know the firemen decided to follow him because he knew how to get around and could open doors for them?

    Oh god not another tenuous guilt-by-association attempt. No evidence of lies or dishonesty there. From your own link

    "I don’t want to suggest that William Rodriguez is anti-Semitic or a Holocaust denier"

    so where's the problem?

    You should really have good evidence for this kind of slur; you've presented none.
     
  17. editor

    editor hiraethified

    So you believe that he "helped save hundreds of lives on 9/11 by his own efforts" and was "the last man out" even when the evidence doesn't seem to support that claim, yes?

    And why do you completely ignore the testimony and opinions of all the other heroes on that day, Jazzz? I find that rather insulting and, frankly, a little disgusting. Why aren't the (non-conspiraloon, nacth) opinions of all the other 9/11 heroes worth listening to?
     
  18. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    I can't believe you are still confused over this. It is not William Rodriguez' opinion that counts, it is his evidence as an eyewitness and someone expertly familiar with the WTC. Of course all the other eyewitnesses are worth listening to also, like Felipe David for instance, who awoke from his coma to give an account perfectly corrororating that of Rodriguez; yet was never called by the 9/11 Commission. And countless others.
     
  19. editor

    editor hiraethified

    So his rather singular version of events - half-supported only by one coma-shocked survivor - completely overrides every other eye witness account because none of them contain anything to back up his (once-changed) conspiraloon-tastic version, yes?

    You keep saying he was the 'last man out'. That's not true is it, so why keep saying it? And did he really save "hundreds of lives" or do you think he might be getting carried away with his own hype there?
     
  20. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    His is by no means a singular version of events. No, his account is corroborated by many others. Felipe David is just one example. IIRC, there were at least nineteen others to back up the evidence of explosions in the basement who were not called before the 9/11 Commission, and their evidence not investigated.

    I'm not aware of anyone that has an account that contradicts that of Rodriguez. Certainly, you have not presented one.

    I don't see how you can be quite so confused over this.

    And no, I think hundreds of lives is quite fair an estimation. Perhaps you would like to put a value, for the WTC rescue effort, of a master key that would open all the doors, plus a guide who knew the WTC like the back of his hand to assist firefighters who would otherwise not know how to get around and waste crucial time having to break doors by force?

    Really if you want to question this, you must first actually listen to the story, which of course you haven't done, have you?
     
  21. 8den

    8den No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...

    He has hence is outrage.

    Going on a speaking tour misrepresenting his role and the events of 911 makes him modest? Modest would be that he quietly and humbly accepts his role, rather than walk the earth taking speaking engagements and waving his key around.

    I've spoken to him online. He cannot keep his story straight.

    No last man out of the towers is a unambigious statement. I'm not being pedantic, Rodergiuz is misrepresenting his role.

    Gosh Inane youtube video. Pass.

    One person isn't a hundred.

    Which version?

    Firemen had tools to open doors, you think a NYC fireman doesn't encounter locked doors daily when trying to do their jobs. They have tools to overcome this issue. William may have saved seconds, he didn't save lives opening doors.

    So are you deining he attented Neo Nazi conferences? Hung around with Holocaust deiners? While William may not explicitly be a anti semite, he doesn't seem to have issue with them. Is that acceptable to you Jazzz?

    I presented lots actually your tenious grasp of reality is damaging your ability to see it.
     
  22. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Really. And their names are?
    But perhaps you could remind me the significance of this explosion and express what you think really happened.

    And then we can ruminate over why none of the tens of thousands of workers, security staff, cleaners, office managers, maintenance staff etc etc don't back up his (once changed) version of events.
     
  23. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    You still haven't listened to his story have you?

    :rolleyes:
     
  24. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    What's inane about it? Sorry but if you really can't be fucked to actually - wait for it - listen to the account in question - there's really little need for me to bother correcting you, is there? :rolleyes:
     
  25. 8den

    8den No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...

    And again I've told you His account has changed substantially over the years.
    This is what he said on the day

    http://911stories.googlepages.com/RodriguezCNN091101.avi

    In this video he blames Bin Laden.

    You can read how Rodrigeuz has changed his account over the years here

    He's a dishonest narrator. He's changed his account, and embellished his role that day repeatedly. I don't see why I should bother listening to hi latest version of events.

    Oh and Jazzz, no opinion on him speaking at a Neo Nazi conference or hanging around with anti Semites?
     
  26. editor

    editor hiraethified

    I've read a fucking ton of links to his wild claims that you've posted up in the past, so I see no reason why should I need to listen to his story now.

    Facts are what I'm interested in, not glossed up, after-the-event, presentations on behalf of the conspiraloon party.

    Seeing as you made the claim, could I have the names of these "nineteen others" who back up his specific conspiracy-tastic claims of explosions prior to the planes hitting please?

    Oh, and why do you choose to ignore all the expert scientific analysis of the collapse by hugely qualified experts over the (ever-changing) opinions of some unqualified bloke in the basement, btw?

    PS Looks like the 'growing' 9/11 truth movement didn't even come close to filling the hall for their hero.
     
  27. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone post tenebras lux

    The Neo-Nazis must have had something better to do that evening.
     
  28. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    He is nothing of the sort. He has not changed his account. Nor has he 'embellished' his role. Of course he originally thought Bin Laden was responsible - so did I!

    Really this is very weak stuff. I see you are still attempting the most tenuous anti-semitic smearing, which completely failed to have any substance the first time.

    There's no excuse for you not being bothered to listening to his presentation, sorry - it just belies the fact that you aren't here to judge anything for yourself.
     
  29. editor

    editor hiraethified

    There's even less excuse for you continuing your highly selective and dishonest approach to evidence, completely ignoring the huge mass of expert analysis and eye witness testimony just because it doesn't fit your lunatic beliefs.

    So, how about the names of these nineteen people...?
     
  30. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    Sorry but I'm thoroughly sick of this 'demand ever more detail, no matter what is provided' together with 'I can't be fucked to actually look into anything myself' sham. I could email William, but you ain't worth it, that's for sure.

    Have a nice ignorant day!

    :)
     

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