Will We Invade Pakistan?
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Johnny Canuck3
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Hocus Eye. said:
The Taliban as it came to be known, didn't really exist while the Russians were there. They were one of many mujahedin groups fighting for independence. Their true rise to power came during the civil war that ensued after the russians left.
Johnny Canuck3
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Bernie Gunther said:
Not really. The taliban are holed up in a few stronghold areas, but outside of that, the population isn't at war with the coalition.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Johnny Canuck2 said:
So the occupation is universally accepted outside of Taliban controlled areas? Given Afghanistan's history, I hardly think so
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
TeeJay said:
Really...or should that be "rly"?
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Doe anyone else wish the Russians had never left Afghanistan and that Najibullah were still in power, there? Then we might not have had 9/11 and all of the godawful stuff that's been justified on the back of it. Afghans would have been spared the Islamist version of the Khmer Rouge that was the Taliban's fascist-medievalist regime.Johnny Canuck2 said:
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
With hindsight, can you really say the alternative that panned out made Afghanist and the rest of the world a better place?TAE said:
Johnny Canuck3
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TAE said:
They should have just gone and asked Osama. He admitted it.
The news on 5 Live a little over half an hour ago headlined with Pres. Musharaf apparently saying the US threatened to "bomb" his country "into the Neanderthal age" if they did not assist with their campaign against the Taleban after 9/11.
Not overly surprised at this but there I can't find any written reports on the net. This is very serious if (if???) true
Not overly surprised at this but there I can't find any written reports on the net. This is very serious if (if???) true
Found a link. OK it was stone age but you get the point
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/art...OC_0_UK-PAKISTAN-MUSHARRAF.xml&archived=False
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/art...OC_0_UK-PAKISTAN-MUSHARRAF.xml&archived=False
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
mears said:
We're going to lose Mears, get over it. And when you do, please dont come running with you "Poll data". Im sure its about as accurate as your US exit poll info.
Darlo70 said:
Yep, Musharraf feeling the heat at home:
The United States threatened to bomb Pakistan "back to the stone age" unless it joined the fight against al-Qaeda, President Pervez Musharraf says.
General Musharraf said the warning was delivered by former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage to Pakistan's intelligence director.
"I think it was a very rude remark," Mr Musharraf told CBS television.
Pakistan agreed to side with the US, but Gen Musharraf said it did so based on his country's national interest.
"One has to think and take actions in the interest of the nation, and that's what I did," he said.
BBC
The threat was alleged to have come from Richard Armitage
[ALT]Former US state department official Richard Armitage (file photo, Jan 2005)[/ALT]
mears said:A debacle, I didn't know Afghanistan was in such good shape prior to the American invasion
There is no talk of starvation in Afghanistan any more. Any poll I have seen shows Afghanis positive about the future.
http://www.asiafoundation.org/Locations/afghanistan_survey.html
http://abcnews.go.com/International/PollVault/story?id=1363276
"Equally large percentages endorse the US military presence in Afghanistan. Eighty-three percent said they have a favorable view of “the US military forces in our country” (39% very favorable). Just 17% have an unfavorable view."
"Perhaps most telling, 82% said that overthrowing the Taliban government was a good thing for Afghanistan, with just 11% saying it was a bad thing. In the war zone, 71% endorsed the Taliban’s overthrow while 16% saw it as a bad thing; in the north, 18% saw it as a bad thing."
"These views were held by large majorities of all ethnic groups, including the large Pashtun and Tajik groups and the smaller Uzbek and Hazara groups. The Pashtuns were less emphatic in their rejection of the Taliban, with 51% expressing a very unfavorable view of the Taliban as compared to 66-79% for the other groups.
http://65.109.167.118/pipa/articles/home_page/155.php?nid=&id=&pnt=155&lb=hmpg1
Three polls for you to look at. Maybe a debacle from you eyes, just not from the people actually living in Afghanistan.
I don't want to fall into the trap of posting multiple links that contradict yours, but I would like to engage a mind that refuses to recognise, a prolonged military campaign in afganistan won't realise an america\allied forces victory. What happens to those same people when america pulls outs. Forgotten the montagnards? http://www.unpo.org/article.php?id=535
Will you post multiple links about their future, or see it as a necessary cost in the war on terror.
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