Mmm, stupid as it might be, it kind of makes the claims that this was some kind of Krystalnacht mark 2, targetting "Jewish owned" businesses for the sake of it look incredibly silly.
Why were people smashing Starbucks windows at the Gaza protest?
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This is what i saw of the property damage on saturday.
First starbucks window was put thro at which point a large group of people charged over there to make sure it was fully done over.
The Corner shop from what i saw only got a slight crack in the window and I'm pretty sure this was caused by something which was thrown at the cops next to it but wasn't a very good shot.
A chinese resturant had a hole in its window as no more damage was caused I'm guessing other protestors stopped it getting totally trashed (it certainly wasn't protected by police).
The top Gun shop had its windows smashed and 'blood' put on some of the clothes so it may have been a fur/leather thing but I'm also pretty sure I saw someone getting them selves a new jacket...
As for why starbucks was trashed my thoughts would be that there were quite possibly people on the demo who were outraged not only at Israel's massacre of Palestinians but also starbucks exploitation of workers,ect and trashing that in protest against Israel the point would be to show that if you bomb civillians or support it, it won't be business as usual
First starbucks window was put thro at which point a large group of people charged over there to make sure it was fully done over.
The Corner shop from what i saw only got a slight crack in the window and I'm pretty sure this was caused by something which was thrown at the cops next to it but wasn't a very good shot.
A chinese resturant had a hole in its window as no more damage was caused I'm guessing other protestors stopped it getting totally trashed (it certainly wasn't protected by police).
The top Gun shop had its windows smashed and 'blood' put on some of the clothes so it may have been a fur/leather thing but I'm also pretty sure I saw someone getting them selves a new jacket...
As for why starbucks was trashed my thoughts would be that there were quite possibly people on the demo who were outraged not only at Israel's massacre of Palestinians but also starbucks exploitation of workers,ect and trashing that in protest against Israel the point would be to show that if you bomb civillians or support it, it won't be business as usual
eoin_k
Lawyer's fees, beetroot and music
Am I missing something - Islamic culture and mathematics have quite a long history - what is so odd. Genuine question like.
)Mainframeguy
new but not raw, I hope
The average Starbucks customer and staff (in my limited experience of taking my daughter in to use their toilets) are pretty shite too...
I do not mind that it happened - I do mind that it probably detracted massively from any credibility for the protest that the march was about.
I do not mind that it happened - I do mind that it probably detracted massively from any credibility for the protest that the march was about.
Spion
I hear ya
There's a great series on Islamic science running just now on BBC4Am I missing something - Islamic culture and mathematics have quite a long history - what is so odd. Genuine question like.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00gq6h7/Science_and_Islam_The_Empire_of_Reason/
Violence is not a valid political tool.
Estimates on the number of people at this demo range from 20,000 to well over 50,000. Whatever number you believe it's a big demo with a good intention.
The reports I've seen all agree that these people did a great job and even the cops agreed they made their point well.
I take my hat off to them for doing what they could to make the world see what a bunch of bastards the Israeli government are being.
However a couple of hundred fucking idiots came so close to undoing all the good that the vast majority did in this demo by being daft prats and giving the Israeli government room to get it's propaganda machine going against the demo and distracting the news of the demo away from it's point to the violence of a few silly twats.
I hope the slack bastards are ashamed of themselves but it's likely they were down the boozer slapping each other on the back thinking they are some sort of heroes instead of the brainless pilchards they really are.
eoin_k
Lawyer's fees, beetroot and music
Yeah, I watched the first episode. It was really good.
Udo Erasmus
Well-Known Member
Get a life, your apologetics for the Israel colonial-settler state are getting tiring. Actually, Starbucks is well known to have strong links with the Israeli regime, the owners of Starbucks are also active supporters of the 'war on terror' opening a special store in Afghanistan for Western troops. The owner also actively campaigns in support of Israel's oppression of the Palestinian people, for example, During Operation Defensive Shield and the massacres in Jenin he made speeches in support of Israel (he was thanked by senior Israeli politicans for his PR work among American young people) and the company has raised money for Israel
Yes quite right and political campaigns have been mounted against Starbucks many times before actually.
Why confused?
It does no good and when it comes to a demo like this it only harms the point that so many made so well.
A few twats smashing a starbuck's window gives the daily mail it's chance to ignore the issue and print a story telling the world that the protesters were all violent cunts out on an orgy of destruction.
That sort of story destroys the work of so many well intentioned people with a valid point.
Like I said before. A bunch of daft twats in need of a brain.
Were you part of that?
lostexpectation
New Member
windows can't receive violence
Ignoring the whole jewish owned bit why do people have such a downer on Starbucks ?
I quite like them and think the coffee is very good. Dont go in for all that frothy late nonsense and refuse to use the daft language but for buying a mug of regular filter coffee and sitting down and having a ponder or reading a paper or magazine they seem to do the job quite nicely.
I quite like them and think the coffee is very good. Dont go in for all that frothy late nonsense and refuse to use the daft language but for buying a mug of regular filter coffee and sitting down and having a ponder or reading a paper or magazine they seem to do the job quite nicely.
winjer
holocene death beat
Do you apply that universally?
If you take the premise that protesters should never use violence to make their political points, do you regard it as acceptable for the police to use violence to stop them making their political points?
If you genuinely don't know, you obviously haven't read the thread
Never mind the cops, given the scale of violence currently being employed by the Israeli state, crying over a window is hypocritical in the extreme.
winjer
holocene death beat
Zionist owned, it's racist to suggest that all Jews share his political position - I'm not sure that you are, perhaps you're just using sloppy language, but there's no room for that when it's so contentious.
Primarily, I think because they use their size to force smaller businesses out, opening several stores to saturate areas.
Secondarily, they are seen as a symptom of homogenisation, where every high street becomes the same.
Fair enough on the Jewish point.
But I dont remember to many coffee shops in my part of London before Starbucks came along and if what they are offering is good, which I think it is, what is wrong with every high street having one ?
Bristly Pioneer
Anarchitect
turns out whitechapel starbucks was firebombed on wednesday night. Some people are linking it to a similar anti-zionist action?
text from the space hijackers:
perhaps there are many many reasons as to why people don't like starbucks?
text from the space hijackers:
perhaps there are many many reasons as to why people don't like starbucks?
lostexpectation
New Member
at least nobody is hurt but you can never be sure with fire.
http://polizeros.com/2009/01/14/london-starbucks-firebombed-anti-semitic-graffiti-too/
We take him at his word. Of course, one of these “Israel Shops” was smashed up in Belfast earlier this week.
a load protest with leaflets thrown on it, not smashed.
http://polizeros.com/2009/01/14/london-starbucks-firebombed-anti-semitic-graffiti-too/
We take him at his word. Of course, one of these “Israel Shops” was smashed up in Belfast earlier this week.
a load protest with leaflets thrown on it, not smashed.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Brilliant stuff from space hijackers again! 
oh ffs! how is a shop anywhere near the same as a place of worship??
would you compare a chapel to greggs? jesus wept
oh ffs! how is a shop anywhere near the same as a place of worship??
would you compare a chapel to greggs? jesus wept
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
regardless of anything, that's quite coolturns out whitechapel starbucks was firebombed on wednesday night. Some people are linking it to a similar anti-zionist action?
text from the space hijackers:
perhaps there are many many reasons as to why people don't like starbucks?
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