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Why the Guardian is going down the pan!

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by treelover, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    The NYT has been working on that basis for decades. Support the latest government action then apologise for it later down the line and promise never to be fooled again. Imagine all the pundits that abolishing this would put out of work :mad:
     
  2. mauvais

    mauvais change has become unavoidable

  3. bemused

    bemused Well-Known Member

    Protesters on the streets, risking being murdered. Owen thinks they are fighting US domination ....

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  4. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama Fuck the system.

    the Guardian contains less information per colum ince than its right wing counterparts. IMO this is an evil plan to stupify the Left .
    Good to see Grumblemunters doing well for himself though:facepalm:
     
  5. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    "Colum ince"? This thread isn't the Grauniad itself, you know.
     
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  6. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama Fuck the system.

    Fuck off you snotty idiot. :) . I like the way you idiots react ti misspeltthreads.... shows how petty and irrelivent you and your world is.

    oh ... unless you like the Guardian
    ...... or your Tory Boy :D ??? Course yer not :( He would have said somthing more cleverer
     
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  7. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    So if you think this is irrelevant why did you join?
     
  8. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama Fuck the system.

    Dont get paranoid . I wasnt talking about the entire collective... just people who have no other contribution than a fucking spellcheck

    Obviously i could focus on the gramma and spelling, or use a spellcheck. But the way my brain works is spitting words out in a flow ... and i like leaving an obvious error there because, as I say - it does expose people who obviously oppose the points i make but can`t articulate them. So, what i try do is grab that "You cant even spell" comment and interrogate it until i find out where they actually stand . Then we can have a debate that might enrich us.
     
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  9. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    Okay.

    If it helps I make errors in my posts all the time - typos, even words missed out. My brain moves faster than my fingers sometimes and the predictive text on my phone is just plain weird. If I see them, I tend to go back an edit where I can, but I don't always notice.

    But there are uberpedants on here so brace yourself ;)
     
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  10. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming



    Weights & measures eh?
     
  11. Combustible

    Combustible Well-Known Member

    Apparently Bannon's favourite!

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  12. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama Fuck the system.

    RE: First post:
    This is relevant, as the New York Times is the American equivalent of the Guardian, and the following would suggest an international decline in liberal media, steered by secret services and government departments after 9/11.

    James Risen a former New York Times journalist through the 9/11 era has spoken out about the inherent filters in place within the commercial media.

    My Life as a New York Times Reporter in the Shadow of the War on Terror

     
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  13. bimble

    bimble noisy but small

  14. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama Fuck the system.

    re:Bimble

    Probably single-handedly stopped the rise of the National Socialists TBH. Almost makes me want to ... no, it doesn't.
     
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  15. emanymton

    emanymton A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.

  16. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

  17. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

    'The owners of Tourmaline Springs say they resent being lumped in with other businesses they feel are jumping on the raw food bandwagon.

    I call them entrepreneurial opportuni-whores,” said Pruzansk. “People who see a trend and just want to make money. We’re basically the founders of this entire thing. Having other companies copying our efforts and doing it in a way that is potentially dangerous – we’re a little taken aback.”'

    :thumbs:

    Caught in a deluge: 'raw water' pioneers blame 'opportuni-whores' for brouhaha
     
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  18. RainbowTown

    RainbowTown Well-Known Member

    It's actually quite embarrassing just how bad The Guardian has become and how increasingly censorious they are too. More and more, they don't allow any reader comments at all on those articles they think will draw a critical response. And as for the overall standard of journalism......peak virtue-signalling doesn't even cover it. No wonder it's dying a death and begging for money to survive.
     
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  19. oryx

    oryx Sitting on the bock of the day

    Yes. As an aside from the rest of the paper, which has really 'gone down the pan' but still has the odd good bit, I was reading the Saturday magazine today.

    :facepalm: just awful, stale, pretentious, unimaginative. Last week's had their standard stable of journalists going over the year, in satire (I use the term loosely). This week it was more or less the same journos doing their NY resolutions :facepalm:

    The columns and the fashion have been awful for some time but there used to be the odd interesting article.
     
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  20. killer b

    killer b Gazing vacantly at a plate of mince

    I've no problem at all with having no reader comments tbf. They should do that on all their stories.
     
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  21. killer b

    killer b Gazing vacantly at a plate of mince

    I mean, have you read them when they do allow them??
     
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  22. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Yes :(

    Never again :mad:
     
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  23. emanymton

    emanymton A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.

  24. seventh bullet

    seventh bullet red mullet

  25. crossthebreeze

    crossthebreeze Well-Known Member

    From the top "guardian pick" from the comments:
    "You make your community nice - build up a city farm, open a cafe, support your kids' school, sort out the youth club, look after your garden. Then the vampires move in. You know who they are. 'Sought after'. 'Improving'. 'Investment'. 'Vibrant'. 'Zone 2'. They're the ones. In cahoots with each other, talking up the 'market. Don't blame the people who do the hard work. Blame the estate agent."
     
  26. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone ubi sunt

    A bit of background info on the journalist.

    How the welfare state helped homeless Poppy to win a place at Cambridge University
     
  27. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama Fuck the system.

    And that is where it all went wrong for her :( Such a promising start too .
     
  28. seventh bullet

    seventh bullet red mullet

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  29. petee

    petee i'm spartacus

    no it isn't.
     
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  30. emanymton

    emanymton A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.

    What's your point? That this somehow makes her and (more importantly) The Guardian immune to criticism? Isnt that the main point of this thread? To point out when the Guardian publishes stuff like that with headlines like that. As is so often the case with things on the thread the headline suggestions a worse article than the actual thing. That tells us something about the Guardian's sensibilities and who it is targeting doesn't it? And someone's position within society is not defined by their history, but by their current activity. Do you think the Guardian would have given her a column if she had been too afraid to go to Cambridge and had opted for some ex-polly instead?

    And while we are sort of on the subject, I hate the way social mobility has somehow become a substitute for equality. More social mobility does nothing to improve equality, I'd does nothing to help the millions of people struggling to get buy. All more social mobility is likely to do, is give us more wankers with an 'while I made it good, so anyone can' mentality.
     
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