Why the Guardian is going down the pan!

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by treelover, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    i think they have to have an alter ego at the very least
  2. scifisam

    scifisam feck! arse! girls! drink!

    Most of them do, but not all, like Thor (in the movies, at least) and also she might well have a different name to hide under in the next film. She's super and she's a hero and the rest is window dressing
  3. billy_bob

    billy_bob supercalifragilistic-borussiamönchengladbach

  4. redsquirrel

    redsquirrel This Machine Kills Progressives

    TBF the long read articles are often good. Decent one on the Pope vs RC church and on academic publishing
  5. DaveCinzano


  6. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    In today's Gruaniad there's a big profile of Arlene Foster, which includes none other than Eoghan Harris vouching for her non-bigot status!

    I don't know if the G. genuinely don't know what sort of head-the-ball Harris is, but I hope they don't know, because if they did they'd know that he was the last person to be considered an honest judge of whether or not any NI unionist is a bigot.

    (He's a renegade Republican turned sticky Stalinist turned born-again Empire Loyalist - and given what I've heard from people who've met him over the years, he's not the full shilling either).
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  7. Jeremiah18.17

    Jeremiah18.17 Well-Known Member

  8. Rob Ray

    Rob Ray Irony is well sad

    It's a really fantastic piece, you can almost hear him crying into his fourth glass of Chardonnay as he types.
  9. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Has he stopped switching to vodka after the third glass of wine, then? Probably the vodka reminded too much of when he was actually a bit left-wing. :)
  10. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    Spectator column by the end of the decade, you mark my words. Maybe sooner.
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  11. J Ed

    J Ed Follow Back Pro Expropriation

    Had no idea he wasn't already writing for the Spectator.
  12. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

    He blogs for The Spectator apparently...

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  13. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

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  14. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

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  15. J Ed

    J Ed Follow Back Pro Expropriation

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  16. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

    That's unfair. He sometimes varies the paragraph where he starts Corbofrothing (TM) :thumbs:
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  17. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    This whole piece seems to be a several hundred word attempt to get into Pseuds Corner.
  18. Rob Ray

    Rob Ray Irony is well sad

    I like the way he glosses over having written/starred in 2013s Blurred Lines by implying he learned to respect women by watching his partner birth/look after their child. Of course some terribly, terribly cynical folk might say this epiphany came a bit late on, given that his first child was born in 2008 and his (no doubt deeply held) conversion to feminism just so happened to come after a massive global backlash against some rapey lyrics he'd penned.
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  19. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    His and Hugo's break-out hit was Got Your Money, a song about a pimp and one of his prostitutes.

    A cracking tune, mind you.
  20. Rob Ray

    Rob Ray Irony is well sad

    Tbh music and misogyny seems to be like football and homophobia — we all know it's rampant and horrible, but no-one wants to be the one to stop the show.
  21. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

  22. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

  23. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Ridin' a Stutz Bearcat, Jim

    Matthew D'ancona puts me off the idea of people in general.

    He's a prime example of someone with zero ability to actually write doing very well by simply spoon feeding middle england partially reconstituted knee-jerk bullshit.

    When he moans about certain phrases being thoughtlessly parroted in pro-brexit circles you get the Impression he's actually only upset because none of his own catchy soundbites ('visceral collectivism' anyone?) ever seem to catch on. This must be because the proles are stupid, there's no other explanation.
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  24. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

  25. killer b

    killer b No Hateration, No Holeration. in this Dancery

    What the fuck Paul Mason?

    In a dangerous world, nations divided by class have historically relied on the best-educated, richest and highest-trained people to think strategically on their behalf; not just the politicians, but the top lawyers, central bankers and civil servants. If they do that in times of crisis, as Orwell did in the second world war, you can forgive daft hats at Ascot and the crazy rigmarole of regimental dinners.

    The British elite is at war with itself – on a scale we’ve never seen before | Paul Mason
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  26. Rob Ray

    Rob Ray Irony is well sad

    Think it's intended as a sort of "this is the deal as envisaged by the dominant portion of our collective national psyche" thing rather than his personal view. Which is obv ridiculously simplistic but does have a persuasive ring given the fact Boris and Rees-Mogg are senior in Britain's most powerful political party rather than curios in a circus show titled The Victorian Experience.

    Personally I was more busy rolling my eyes at his visions of what a Corbyn government can realistically achieve.
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  27. redsquirrel

    redsquirrel This Machine Kills Progressives

    Yeah, what Rob Ray said. But it's just a terribly written piece of nonsense from start to finish. Obviously just bashed out X words for the editor.
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  28. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Tbh mostly we've been led by the stupid, feckless and reckless
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  29. The Pale King

    The Pale King Well-Known Member

    This year’s crop of hypersentimental war movies remind us of why elites are useful: Kenneth Branagh as the naval commander in Dunkirk, stoically managing the evacuation; Julian Wadham as General Montgomery in Churchill, showing the calm leadership qualities that made the real-life Monty a hero to many of his soldiers; Gary Oldman as Churchill in Darkest Hour.

    This world of cigarette smoke, woollen tank tops and deference is living memory for older people, but seems so alien to the young that it can be readily fictionalised using a few conventions. The main convention is that the British elite never loses its cool.

    This, by Mason, reads like a Matthew d'Ancona column. It's bizarre, he's headed for mysticism here...
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  30. Kaka Tim

    Kaka Tim Crush the Saboteurs!

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