Why the Guardian is going down the pan!

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by treelover, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    the two men who came up with superman imagined a golem/hercules/heroic figure so its a reasonable take
     
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  2. D'wards

    D'wards I'm an excellent driver

    Guardian going well in on the Paradise Papers, considering in 2008 they used a tax-exempt shell company in the Cayman Islands to avoid paying corporation tax when it sold its 50 per cent holding in AutoTrader to Apax Partners.
     
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  3. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

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  4. hot air baboon

    hot air baboon Well-Known Member

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  5. hot air baboon

    hot air baboon Well-Known Member

    going around "punching" hasn't been going too well for us lately - in any particular weight-division
     
  6. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Apart from actual punching where we near rule the world.
     
  7. Silas Loom

    Silas Loom The people have spoken, the bastards.

    Thing is, they spent the money on buying EMAP (with Apax) and put the rest into a long-term ringfenced investment fund. So actually no CT would have been payable. It was just that they left the complicated stuff to Apax. And for a VC fund, putting everything offshore - just in case - is as natural as breathing.
     
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  8. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    I'm disappointed they don't seem to be pushing this left, right and centre. No other print paper is going to hammer this topic, so why not break the supposedly unwritten rule and call the proprietors of those rags to account? Le Monde, which I believe is one of the Graun's partners in the investigation, has a call to arms on tax dodging in their comments section today. The UK, being manager of the largest number of dodgy money boltholes around the world, should be at least following suit.
     
  9. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    Portentous-yet-down-with-the-youth Graun text:

    Illustrative image linked to in the above:

    XANAX.jpg
     
  10. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Four is the new five, man.
     
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  11. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    long piece today on the history and going forward of the paper- read half of it. They actually opposed the formation of the NHS, this is blamed on personal hatred of nye by the then editor lol. I struggle to think of any recent behaviour that might be similar...
     
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  12. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Timothy Garton Ash has the answer as to how to "halt the rise of the international far right". Get ready for it:

    "Every time we hear such views expressed, whether in the pub or the cafe, at the football ground or on Facebook, we need to speak up. It doesn’t have to be angry polemic. It can also be ridicule."

    And thats it. Shout angrily or take the piss.
     
  13. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    He set up a foundation for rational debate a few years back. Don't say he doesn't do anything.
     
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  14. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

  15. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

  16. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    The player he's lauding is a fascist.
     
  17. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    Ah thanks, didn't go past the start.
     
  18. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Wouldn't matter if you'd read the whole thing - simply isn't mentioned. And the author knows damn well what he is.
     
  19. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    Why the dishonesty do you think? The author is blinkered?
     
  20. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    I think he's been asked to do a piece about the retirement of a great (and he was a great) in a pretty bad situation - but, if they're going to an overview of his career then it needs mentioning i think. So maybe he did include it and it was cut or he was asked not to mention it. Sort of all-round cowardice. There's no way anyone on the football part of a sports desk wouldn't be aware.
     
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  21. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    Shame it wasn't mentioned. It's that type of shoving things under the carpet that encourages the growth of fascism.
     
  22. Silas Loom

    Silas Loom The people have spoken, the bastards.

    Buffon isn't a card carrying fascist, by the way. He has explained away his request for an 88 shirt (four balls, apparently) and his use of Mussolini's "death to cowards" slogan (didn't know the origin, he said). Which is as far as the reasons to call him a fascist go. Not completely convincing, but he's no Paolo Di Canio. It's just about possible that he's as dozy as he claims. And so any reference to all this in an article would have needed to have all the disclaimers. It's not scandalous to omit it.
     
  23. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    'I see things differently': James Damore on his autism and the Google memo

    Breathtakingly unchallenging interview with the ex-Google alt right arsehole which lets him get away with presenting the idea that if he’s offended anyone it’s because he’s autistic, with which large numbers of autistic people who are not alt right arseholes are not happy. Though the audience is people who like to believe they’re tolerant and understanding but in fact are very comfortable with the most dimwitted simplistic prejudices as long as they come with a pseudo-scientific paper hat, so they’ll be fine.
     
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  24. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    This does challenge the above for “shittest guardian article” though. As well as the let’s all laugh at Hitler/discourse always wins thing I like the idea that Pence and everyone else have “failed” by doing exactly what they set out to do.
     
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  25. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    This, is how this happens.
     
  26. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    30 seconds on that one btw folks. Let's guess how long he took after his next causally informed post. It could be on anything.
     
  27. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    Very long article, he does not come across very well indeed, nor does his girlfriend.
     
  28. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Wow, an apologia from Loom. Who would have guessed?
     
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  29. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    i know you've liked this, vp but others could too Tory Death Spiral
     
  30. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    C'mon people, only 5 more likes of the post in the link above are needed. :)
     
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