Why the Guardian is going down the pan (Welsh version)

Discussion in 'Wales/Cymru' started by planetgeli, Sep 24, 2016.

  1. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    Scrabble yn Gymraeg: the board game no one wants to buy

    Point of article?

    1) Don't those funny Welsh speak a funny language.

    2) Aren't those funny Welsh a bit thick not wanting to buy Scrabble.

    3) Here's a fucking great big free advert for Waterstones.

    Lots of valid criticism in the comments section (as well as the expected/invited anti-Welsh racism). This is an article about one shop, in one town, being used for the three negative points above. No mention of other shops (like actual Welsh shops) in Carmarthen that have made sales of Welsh Scrabble. Article suspiciously accredited to 'Kevin Rawlinson and agency'.

    The agency being Waterstones PR presumably.
     
  2. Supine

    Supine Rough Like Badger

    People who live in Wales (small country), who speak welsh (minority), play scrabble (rare) and want to do so in Welsh is a pretty niche market for sales.
     
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  3. mwgdrwg

    mwgdrwg Be a Pisces. Jam. Enforced Holiday Banned

    :facepalm:
     
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  4. Plumdaff

    Plumdaff joy in people

    :facepalm:

    What a shit article. I'm surprised they haven't managed to slag off S4C at some point.
     
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  5. Mrs D

    Mrs D .

  6. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

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  7. 8ball

    8ball Up to something

  8. Plumdaff

    Plumdaff joy in people

    I saw the tweets (they're in the linked article). Seemed to be some anti Cymraeg eejit deliberately trying to gain attention / cause offence during the Eisteddfod. The open letter was very good I thought.
     
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  9. 8ball

    8ball Up to something

    Yep, was very reasonably put.

    Seems a shame to me that Welsh isn't doing better at the moment - it seemed to have a bit of an upwards blip some years back when things were looking a bit more hopeful.
     
  10. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    I'd buy a half price Welsh Scrabble from Waterstones in Carmarthen :D. I'd probably never play it, but it'd be fun to have, in case Welsh friends dropped by or something.
     
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  11. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut the Great.

  12. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

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  13. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

    Why do you think it's "not doing better"?
     
  14. 8ball

    8ball Up to something

    I think the thing about a Welsh Scrabble set is that you can just use the English set and agree on changing some points values for the letters and you're done.

    Or, if you're from Cardigan and want to be rigorous, you can go to the shop, look at the game and write down the points values for later.
     
  15. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    I think the Welsh set may have more tiles. English has 100, Welsh has 105.
     
  16. 8ball

    8ball Up to something

    We've done that thread before. Whole heap of reasons. Hard to assign relative contributions. Imo.
     
  17. 8ball

    8ball Up to something

    Is that so? Fair enough.

    I expect a lot of Welsh families have been playing with the English kit for years, though, possibly with words from both English and Welsh allowed.

    Did anyone on this thread do that as a kid (not me, cos I'm from an English-speaking bit)?

    edit: this one has 100 tiles:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Leisure-Tr...qid=1533813186&sr=8-1&keywords=scrabble+welsh

    edit2: But the letter frequencies are different (no X and Z, and instead has NG, RH and DD) - maybe that's what you were thinking of.
     
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  18. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    Wiki thinks 105, but perhaps the only way to find out is to buy one from Waterstones :D

    Scrabble letter distributions - Wikipedia
     
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  19. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    Incidentally, the comments on that article are quite entertaining, if completely irrelevant :D
     

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