Genghis Cohen
Minister For Scrabble
If Podolski was on form germany might be worth a look, but last I heard he was having a woeful season.
Why Rooney MUST go to the world cup!!
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Genghis Cohen said:
Cover your eyes when you look at Owen and Rooney's league record this season.
I'm still largely unimpressed by Pele, Beckenbauer et al all whoring themselves off to the British press...'England could win it...if they can beat Brazil and Argentina...and Germany....oh yeah...for me they are odds on'
The only way for me to cope with this World Cup, after the Rooney news, is to apply ridiculous levels of optimism. And beer.
We have a narrow and outside chance without Rooney, a better than evens chance with him.
I don't rate Germany at all, and neither Argentina nor Brazil are invinceable. But we need Rooney, in the knockout stages at least.
We have a narrow and outside chance without Rooney, a better than evens chance with him.
I don't rate Germany at all, and neither Argentina nor Brazil are invinceable. But we need Rooney, in the knockout stages at least.
jiggajagga
Judge_Mental
Leon said:
Do you know nothing of betting systems?
MONEY drives odds
France are a lower price in France than in England!
Brazil are a lower price in Brazil than England
England are a lower price in England than elsewhere!
Bookies know that jingo fever takes over every world cup so the price is lowered to counteract the amount of money placed. Its got nothing to do with the actual possibility of winning the event ffs!
ENGLAND WILL NOT WIN THE WORLD CUP!!
I'll suck my own cock in public if they do! I'm that certain!
phildwyer said:
Which was the toughest team they had to play to get there? in the knockout stages they had Parguay, USA, South Korea over which each team they only managed a 1-0 win and infact were quite lucky to get past the USA who outplayed them. The fact that they got to the final in '02 is nowehre as impressive as you think.
When they finally came up against one of the 'big teams' they duly loss. This year they've got a very easy group, which I expect them to win no bother, but it's very unlikely that they're going to get anywhere near as easy run as they had to the final in '02 and for that reason it's very unlikely they'll make the final.
JKKne said:
Are those odds up to date??
Bonfirelight
Crocodile
they're amongst the favourites i suppose, but losing rooney is a massive blow.
At the end of the day though, it's a cup competition and there will always be suprises in one off games. Who'd have thought West Ham would be in the FA cup final? or villareal in the semis of the champions league. Or Porto winning it?
Anything can happen if a team finds some form and yeah, gets a little luck. I'd say once you get past brazil, who can have an off day, then argentina, italy, holland, spain, france and england are all there abouts and it'll just comdown to the day.
and France the world cup without a strike force so there's hope yet..
At the end of the day though, it's a cup competition and there will always be suprises in one off games. Who'd have thought West Ham would be in the FA cup final? or villareal in the semis of the champions league. Or Porto winning it?
Anything can happen if a team finds some form and yeah, gets a little luck. I'd say once you get past brazil, who can have an off day, then argentina, italy, holland, spain, france and england are all there abouts and it'll just comdown to the day.
and France the world cup without a strike force so there's hope yet..
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England are always seen as one of the favourites if not the favourites by the bookies in this country because they know folks will bet for England to win regardless of how low the odds are.
This time round England have a reasonable claim to say they're one of the favourites. There have been times in past tournaments when you had a look at the odds given by the bookies and said 'you must be having a fucking laugh'.
This time round England have a reasonable claim to say they're one of the favourites. There have been times in past tournaments when you had a look at the odds given by the bookies and said 'you must be having a fucking laugh'.
JKKne said:
7-1? that would almost certainly make them second favourites, there are English sites offering longer odds on England than that.
I find it very hard to beiueve taht any bookmaker would place them as 6th favouries as when almost no-one would place them outside the top 5 teams in the world right now.
I'd challenge you to find a bookmaker who's offering as anythign less than fourth favourites (even then the odds won't be that mcuh different from 2nd and 3rd favoruites)
Jazzz said:
True, though the kind of person who has a patriotic punt on England is unlikely to be the kind of person who looks too far for their bookies.
Outside of the bookies England are one of the favourites anyway, a lot of people don't relaize that English football is respected around the world in a way it wasn't a few years ago and players liek Gerrard, Lampard, Joe Cole, etc are big stars abroad, not just in the UK.
