Why no protests or demos over the food prices?
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Too vague and ambiguous.
A protest with placards that said "End high food prices" for example might strike more of a resonance with people.
yeah man that'll learn 'em
perhaps followed up with a t-shirt campaign
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Obviously that alone wouldn't work - I was just highlighting the vagueness of what was currently being used.
audiotech
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Too vague and ambiguous.
A protest with placards that said "End high food prices" for example might strike more of a resonance with people.
"Buy One and Get One Free" resonates with people too.
Fullyplumped
in a personal capacity
OK, taking this seriously."Forcing them to lower prices". Do you mean ALL food prices - tortilla chips and salsa dip, Sainsbury's hummus with red pepper, Lidl balsamic vinegar, Tesco Finest Aberdeen Angus Cottage Pie, Jammie Dodgers? Or just staples like 800g loaves, eggs, bananas and frozen chicken breasts?
Would you have them set up a prices and incomes board like in the 70s under Jim Callaghan?
Would you have the Government interfere with the new incentives that higher prices offer to farmers to put currently fallow land into production? Would you cut prices of feed to farmers in this country, or stop them increasing their farm incomes to pay off old debt? How would this address the Fairtrade agenda, where there's an interest in helping impoverished farmers in other parts of the world benefit from higher prices for their produce?
As others have said, what we are seeing is a move some of the way back to the prices people paid a few years ago as a proportion of overall income. It is the case that incomes of the poorest in our society mean that they will be put in greater difficulties - so the answer is to increase their incomes. Now as Treelover would rightly say, that's something to organise a demo about.
But for the rest of us, it's an inconvenience, that's all. Get the telly fixed instead of buying a new 32" flat screen. Get a second hand Fiesta instead of a new Golf. Buy raw ingredients and learn to cook them instead of buying Tesco Finest Aberdeen Angus Cottage Pie.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Tbh, they really can sod off. I think there's going to be a lot less sympathy for the sanctimonious "make everything more expensive" brigade in future.
innit
c'mon, little life giver
Well put imo.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Gee - make household savings and economies (what when costs catch up with those, too?). Now why didn't we low-paid think of that one?
In case it needs to be said: WE ALREADY DO make as many savings as we can without wearing empty potato-sacks in the street!
innit
c'mon, little life giver
Gee - make savings and economies. Now why didn't we low-paid think of that one?
In case it needs to be said: WE ALREADY DO!
Read his / her post properly before getting all uppity
Sweaty Betty
Hemo rising!
I do that already FFS and still im screwed, so take your agenda and tell someone who gives a fuck....
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Seconded. I think they're really going to start being called on this nonsense now.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
I also think the whole "you're not reeaaaallly hard up compared to someone in the 3rd world" shtick is going to start wearing very thin with a lot of people, too.
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
The figure is an average.
Fullyplumped
in a personal capacity
It sounds as if you really need to be protesting not about the Government, but against other consumers.
Fullyplumped
in a personal capacity
Well that's not what I said. I did say that this represents an opportunity for third world producers.
innit
c'mon, little life giver
"Oh gosh, I'm just so angry about food prices, I think I'll complain about it on the internet!"
I'd rather see higher prices which are fairer to farmers, greater regulation of supermarkets, better quality food, better animal welfare, and benefits and tax credits raised accordingly.
I'd rather see higher prices which are fairer to farmers, greater regulation of supermarkets, better quality food, better animal welfare, and benefits and tax credits raised accordingly.
Did you not read the guy's post? He couldn't have made it clearer that he wasn't talking about people on low incomes.
Sweaty Betty
Hemo rising!
yeah he said that wages should get increased, but that just means you dont get enuff tax credit or HB....so still FUCKED!!!
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
OK, so i was right, just keep bitching about it on the internet and blaming some piscine left-wing types for your own laziness.
Fullyplumped
in a personal capacity
Oh yes, I'd forgotten. There should certainly be controls on the price of cod. Even if it is scarce and the cost of catching them is rising.
girasol
Addicted to handstands!
Is it because we're all a bit confused???
First of all, most of the population in this country can still afford to eat.
Also there's been a drive to buy locally/organic A LOT lately, we have been prepared to pay more for the privilege. People have been quite happily paying more in exchange for quality and freshness (or maybe in the belief that's what they were getting, depending on whether they went to supermarkets or actually bought locally)
In the last year I did notice how much more expensive the shopping was getting, but I put it down to the fact that there are now three of us rather than two. I didn't put it down to a rise in food prices. For people whose circumstances haven't changed: did you notice this raise?
That's what living in a developed country is like though: while we worry about house prices and not being able to get luxury items, the poor of this planet are actually worrying about dying from starvation.
First of all, most of the population in this country can still afford to eat.
Also there's been a drive to buy locally/organic A LOT lately, we have been prepared to pay more for the privilege. People have been quite happily paying more in exchange for quality and freshness (or maybe in the belief that's what they were getting, depending on whether they went to supermarkets or actually bought locally)
In the last year I did notice how much more expensive the shopping was getting, but I put it down to the fact that there are now three of us rather than two. I didn't put it down to a rise in food prices. For people whose circumstances haven't changed: did you notice this raise?
That's what living in a developed country is like though: while we worry about house prices and not being able to get luxury items, the poor of this planet are actually worrying about dying from starvation.
Wolveryeti
Detty Pig
You might as well protest against the tides. Or the sun rising. Or gravity.
Bad farmers! Should have planted more crops 8 months ago!
Bad farmers! Should have planted more crops 8 months ago!
If tides/sunrise/gravity were having a very negative effect on people and it was completely within the government's power to do something to help them out but they weren't doing anything, that'd be something worth protesting about too.
it is a bit of a point though.
if you spend well over 50/60% or more of your income on food and it doubles in price it is much more of an issue.
in the UK food prices are just *part* of the problem of inflation. Energy costs, council tax rises, fuel costs, mortgage/rent costs AND food costs are all increasing.
The Govt uses CPI to justify all its decisions on pay reviews etc. If i was running a union or an opposition MP i'd be ripping this methodology to shreds for the basket of goods it contains.
Even the Daily Mail are running a 'cost of living index' and they are fuck all to do with the left (cod or otherwise
) but seemed to be grasping at least one way of taking this on.DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
it is a bit of a point though.
if you spend well over 50/60% or more of your income on food and it doubles in price it is much more of an issue.
in the UK food prices are just *part* of the problem of inflation. Energy costs, council tax rises, fuel costs, mortgage/rent costs AND food costs are all increasing.
The Govt uses CPI to justify all its decisions on pay reviews etc. If i was running a union or an opposition MP i'd be ripping this methodology to shreds for the basket of goods it contains.
Even the Daily Mail are running a 'cost of living index' and they are fuck all to do with the left (cod or otherwise
If we cannot feed our own poor, it doesn't bode well for helping out the third world
I don't think anyone is going to go hungry in the UK on food price increases *alone* in the UK just yet.
It's a contributory factor to a wider problem imo.
girasol
Addicted to handstands!
^^^ this
and also what's happening now is a world crisis brought to us by 'Globalisation' and biofuels, what the heck would people protest about that they haven't protested about before?
There's something fundamentally wrong with the way things work and it's all cracking up. General strike anyone? General WORLD strike? I can't see it catching on though.
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