Why no John Cruddas for DPM thread???
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Apart from his musings about the "white working class" and straying on tuition fees, Mr Cruddas seems to be unfortunately "on message" with the main drift of Blairism - i.e. not an alternative. Blogger Jim Jepps at the Daily (Maybe) Blog has got the measure of him -
http://jimjay.blogspot.com/2006/11/deputy-blog.html
http://jimjay.blogspot.com/2006/11/deputy-blog.html
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
durruti02 said:
He's quite openly Blairite mate - I'm pretty sure that he was once a EuroCommunist
durruti02 said:
more than a bump .. daily mirror readers panel put him top with two 10 out of 10 scores today, and yesterday on Radio 5 one of two punters who got to interview all the candidates went for him
(p.s. its deputy of LP not DPM technically)
he is the only one who seems to be down to earth .. it it a charade?
october_lost
It's not hip any more...
Hang on a minute this thread isnt about immigration is it?
belboid said:
None of them...
But i suppose my sympathies like with Hilary......Can you imagine having Tony Benn as a dad,being named Hilary and sent to a comprehensive school....
John Cruddas says somethings i agree with. But i really cant get enthusiastic about anyone who claims to be a socialist who calls for more money for Higher Education.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
I don't like folk who describe themselves as "socialists" and then proceed to use Tory phrases like "the politics of envy".
belboid said:
in what way is he a 'right wing shit' .. honest q. .. dont follow LP much
had a quick look at this .. how on earth is it 'right wing'?? .. maybe not hard left but i dont think anyone would suggest he is
http://www.joncruddas.org.uk/downloads/ChooseChange_VoteCruddas.pdf
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
all his 'eft' politics have been discovered miraculously in the last 6-12 months - ie when he realised there would be space for a 'leftish' candidate in a deputy leadership election. Prior to that he was a straight down the line Blairite, not putting a foot out of place. I wouldn't trust him further than I could spit him.
belboid said:
fair play .. though they are all coming from soft left it seems ..( well according to the Scum they are all dinosaurs!!!! )
it sems he does not have a good rep .. is it not possible he has learnt form his time as MP .. one of them has got to be capable of that!!
two more articles ..
Race, Class and Migration: Tackling the Far Right
18 April 2007
http://www.joncruddas.org.uk/index.php?getPage=newsTemp&story=175
Labour must stand up for the party's traditional voters and values
16 January 2007
http://www.joncruddas.org.uk/index.php?getPage=newsTemp&story=112
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
I got an email at work, purporting to come from Ken Livingstone, telling me why I should vote for Cruddas.
To be honest, I didn't read it, but am happy to dig it out and quote it to people if you would like.
To be honest, I didn't read it, but am happy to dig it out and quote it to people if you would like.
a crud-arse in the labour party now theres a suprise
HarrisonSlade
say NO to the vaccine
Cruddas voted, with his mate Jabba the Prescott, to send troops into Iraq. He also supported the wars in Afghanistan, Sierra Leone and the Balkans.durruti02 said:
I think that he will win anyway. I think that it's a winning strategy for a party to have an extremist in power, whilst his fat spineless deputy sweetens the pill for the more moderate members. Take Prescott for example. He managed to bully the Unions into voting for reforms which were obviously designed to turn the Labour Party into Tories.
I really hope that the party votes for Hazel Blears, the smug ginger dwarf, she annoys the voters so much that so that the Tories get back in and then the working classes might just grow a back bone and actually violently attack the established figures we are forced to respect. (It is true that Tory Governments usually mean more dead coppers, and politicians)
Fuck Cruddas, he's a turncoat spineless Blairite cunt, who has found the way to tune into readers of the Morning Star.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
nino_savatte said:
i don't like nasty authoritarian politicians. cruddas can fuck off.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
bluestreak said:
He's a twat and the entire deputy leadership candidate list is a proper shower. Not a decent person among them.
HarrisonSlade said:
he says he made a mistake on iraq .. maybe cynical ..
you last paras are nonsense though .. geting the tories back in does NOT push people neccessarily to the left
i/m fascinated by this belief he will win though ..
and what is wrong with appealing to MS readers??
Cruddas isn't on the left although he is being projected as such. I think it is just a re-run of the Prescott election - designed to give a bit of 'left cover' to a Blairite prime minister. Prescott proved to be a right loyalist in getting the more left inclined MPs of the time to back Blair in more than one right wing policy.
I hope that Cruddas has enough sense not to repeat the pattern. There aren't any left MPs for him to persuade though - perhaps one or two anti-war ones but he has no credibility in this area.
He would be better than Hazel Blears though, she has an effect on me like a nail scraping a blackboard when she stands up to declaim her borrowed and carefully rehearsed ideas.
I hope that Cruddas has enough sense not to repeat the pattern. There aren't any left MPs for him to persuade though - perhaps one or two anti-war ones but he has no credibility in this area.
He would be better than Hazel Blears though, she has an effect on me like a nail scraping a blackboard when she stands up to declaim her borrowed and carefully rehearsed ideas.
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