Why is it illegal to slaughter your own pigs?

[chymaera]

Since foot and mouth it's been illegal to feed pigs any domestic waste. If I peel the veg in the field it's ok but if I've done it in the kitchen it's illegal

Does that include autoclaved veg peelings?

 

[Stobart Stopper]

Not that I have any intentions to do this, but I just read that it is illegal to slaughter your own pigs at home.

Why?

Sounds utterly barking to me.

I find it easier just to batter my one with a frying pan tbh.

 

[WouldBe]

We had someone round checking that we weren't feeding the pigs vegetable peelings etc. You can face 2 yrs in prison

What's wrong with feeding pigs vegetable peelings?

 

[WouldBe]

Does that include autoclaved veg peelings?

Pigs root about in fields. Are you supposed to autoclave the land as well? @DEFRA

 

[SpookyFrank]

Pigs root about in fields. Are you supposed to autoclave the land as well? @DEFRA

Quite. I'd be interested to know how they plan to enforce that sort of rule

 

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What's wrong with feeding pigs vegetable peelings?

nothing that has been in a food preperation area can be fed to livestock. This is to prevent animals being fed with anything that is or is contaminated with parts of other animals.

 

[Funky_monks]

I think he's planning to try and tag his next pig somehow so as to expose this supposed conspigracy once and for all

His pig should already be tagged somehow when it arrives at the slaughterhouse!

Alternativley, he could try a couple of 'slapmarks' too. Not so good if its a black/spotty pig.

 

[Epona]

There are strict regulations regarding the removal and disposal of brain, spinal cord etc. from livestock species that have been identified as a potential prion disease risk - ie. cattle (BSE) and sheep & goats (scrapie) - hence you can't slaughter and butcher these species for any 3rd party consumption (even free) outside of a licensed and regularly inspected premesis.

There is no evidence that pigs are susceptible to any form of prion disease, so they are not covered by the same restrictions.

 

[madzone]

Nothing at all if they are processed first. (Very long and boring set of regulations.)

But not by us

 

[WouldBe]

nothing that has been in a food preperation area can be fed to livestock. This is to prevent animals being fed with anything that is or is contaminated with parts of other animals.

But any animals or part of animals found in a food preparation are have to have passed inspection to be fit for human consumption so why wouldn't it be fit for animal consumption?

 

[madzone]

But any animals or part of animals found in a food preparation are have to have passed inspection to be fit for human consumption so why wouldn't it be fit for animal consumption?

It's all a load of bureacratic bollocks. Probably designed to discourage small farms and close small abbatoirs with the intention of replacing it all the quicker with supermarket controlled industro agriculture. Pigs are omnivourous and will eat anything, dead or alive, it's what they're designed for - well, they usually wait until it's dad but you get the picture

A few veg clippings from the kitchen aren't going to cause diddly squat in the digesting machine that is a pig yet the govt spends a fucking fortune paying for post mortems on stomach contents

 

[Funky_monks]

Since foot and mouth it's been illegal to feed pigs any domestic waste. If I peel the veg in the field it's ok but if I've done it in the kitchen it's illegal

We get around this by taking veg trimmings from a bloke on the farmers' market - the veg is unwashed and he reckons it keeps nicer if he trims it has he sells it. Hence it has never been near a kitchen and the pigs get gurt sacks of nice, wholesome veg (they get nuts too though).

I hear pea silage is good feed if you can get it.

 

[madzone]

It's possible to get round it by lying

Or so I'm told

 

[chymaera]

Pigs root about in fields. Are you supposed to autoclave the land as well? @DEFRA

No, but in order to feed food waste to pigs it used to be necessary to cook it at Xdegrees for Y length of time as a disease prevention measure.
(Many larger pig farms who did waste collections from hotels, restaurants and similar had industrial type autoclave kit to comply with the regulations.)
The regulations got stricter and stricter over time and near to bloody impossible in recent years.

 

[madzone]

No, but in order to feed food waste to pigs it used to be necessary to cook it at Xdegrees for Y length of time as a disease prevention measure.
(Many larger pig farms who did waste collections from hotels, restaurants and similar had industrial type autoclave kit to comply with the regulations.)
The regulations got stricter and stricter over time and near to bloody impossible in recent years.

You can't give them swill anymore - no matter how much it's heated. You can only feed them a proprietary bought-in feed in pellet/pencil form (which, needless to say costs a fucking fortune)

 

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It's all a load of bureacratic bollocks. Probably designed to discourage small farms and close small abbatoirs with the intention of replacing it all the quicker with supermarket controlled industro agriculture. Pigs are omnivourous and will eat anything, dead or alive, it's what they're designed for - well, they usually wait until it's dad but you get the picture

i'd also call it an overreaction to the disease problems caused by feeding abattoir waste to animals. I can understand the need not to feed disease contaminated sheep brains to cows, but I do think that we are overreacting.

 

[WouldBe]

I can understand the need not to feed disease contaminated sheep brains to cows, but I do think that we are overreacting.

Quite rightly so. Until the cows start hunting sheep.

 

[chymaera]

You can't give them swill anymore - no matter how much it's heated.

That is yet another lot of recyling gone.

 

[Funky_monks]

It's possible to get round it by lying

Or so I'm told

Shhh! Don't tell anyone.......

 

[Louloubelle]

All you'd need to do to stay within the law would be to have a slaughter party earlier in the day where all of the guests have a stab at the animal concerned, so that you could effectively claim that you had all slaughtered it so could all eat it. It would be a bit like a reenactment of the death of Julius Caesar, only with a pig and without the togas. Unless you wanted to do it with togas. for effect

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Not that I have any intentions to do this, but I just read that it is illegal to slaughter your own pigs at home.

Why?

Sounds utterly barking to me.

Is it ok if you drag them into the woods?

Can you slaughter chickens at home?

 

[Funky_monks]

Is it ok if you drag them into the woods?

Can you slaughter chickens at home?

You can slaughter chickens on the farm for sale, I think. I think you have to be inspected or summat though?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

You can slaughter chickens on the farm for sale, I think. I think you have to be inspected or summat though?

You, or the chickens?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

My friend's neighbor used to slaughter their own chickens. First time I ever saw something getting its throat cut.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

When I think back, that was quite a place. I saw a cat giving birth in a box at that friend's house.

I think kids can be a bit twisted. Any time we saw the old grandma come out of that neighbor's house, we'd rush over to see if she had a butcher knife in her hand.