Orang Utan said:I do think there's an element of truth in what Vixen's saying - it's just that us Urban types are not a typical demographic.
Maybe. I wasn't saying that I was necessarily completely right. I was just asking... for thoughts, you know...Dubversion said:or you could just have got it wrong?![]()
Being moody doesn't describe what I'm trying to say very well. It's more a kind of, oh I knew that already attitude, or, I'm not particularly impressed because I've seen that before.Dubversion said:i'm still not sure i agree. she's right that's there's a phase where being moody is paramount, but most people grow out of it IME
Tank Girl said:I disagree with Vixen.
I don't think I know many people that think they're too cool to show excitement. thank god.
Hmm, think of Brits rolling their eyes at a Yank tourist's display of enthusiasm. Not entirely restricted to age IMO.Dubversion said:i'm still not sure i agree. she's right that's there's a phase where being moody is paramount, but most people grow out of it IME
Londoners! And New Yorkers!jbob said:I have a soft spot for people who aren't particularly cool but are resolutely unenthusiastic about anything. Often accompanied by a very dry sense of humour.

Yes And Yes! Finally!Orang Utan said:Hmm, think of Brits rolling their eyes at a Yank tourist's display of enthusiasm. Not entirely restricted to age IMO.

Vixen said:Londoners! And New Yorkers!![]()
Bloody hell Dub, I think she's saying she's right, unlike you who are saying she is definitely wrong.Vixen said:Maybe. I wasn't saying that I was necessarily completely right. I was just asking... for thoughts, you know...Being moody doesn't describe what I'm trying to say very well. It's more a kind of, oh I knew that already attitude, or, I'm not particularly impressed because I've seen that before.
People sometimes even respond to surprise or an impressed person with an, I can't believe you didn't know that already, type response.
Thing is, I'm NOT saying I'm right. I'm just putting ideas out there. Also giving my own personal opinion, if that's okay.electrogirl said:Bloody hell Dub, I think she's saying she's right
I know a New Yorker (Dub knows him too) who said a similar thing about why he gets on so well in London and with Londoners. The sarcasm, cynicism, etc. He said I'd get on very well if I lived in New York.bluestreak said:that's why i loved new york. they treat londoners like long lost brothers in cynicism.
*moves to new york*
electrogirl said:Bloody hell Dub, I think she's saying she's right, unlike you who are saying she is definitely wrong.![]()
)? I just suggested she might be. Look for key expressions like 'i'm not sure i agree' and 'in my experience'.
My behaviour was more inclined that way from 13 onwards.PieEye said:I think teenagers act unimpressed because it's harder to have absolute faith in your opinions at that age - at the back of your head there's always a feeling that you might have it wrong somewhere, that there's some secret you haven't been let in on.
Of course you learn otherwise as you get older (I think....)
jbob said:I would say it's 'round the other way. Teenagers think they know it all. I know I did at that age. Uncertainty comes with age and experience. Bitter, bitter experience...
oops i meant "i don't think she's saying she's right"Vixen said:Thing is, I'm NOT saying I'm right. I'm just putting ideas out there. Also giving my own personal opinion, if that's okay.
I know a New Yorker (Dub knows him too) who said a similar thing about why he gets on so well in London and with Londoners. The sarcasm, cynicism, etc. He said I'd get on very well if I lived in New York.

It's okay I realised afterwards that that may have been the case but couldn't work out what it might have said.electrogirl said:oops i meant "i don't think she's saying she's right"
Lazy typing. I annoyed two people in one post there, well done me.![]()
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Wasn't annoyed dude. 
jbob said:I would say it's 'round the other way. Teenagers think they know it all. I know I did at that age. Uncertainty comes with age and experience. Bitter, bitter experience...

....)Okay, now you've confused me too.PieEye said:There's often a lack of confidence I reckon. I'm talking about stuff that you'd enthuse about - not thinking you know it all about nuclear weapons or politics and then soapboxing - more about showing excitement about music, books, poems, art or something and not being too sure it was the "right thing".
Or showing excitement about something too simple perhaps - like a beautiful day or a nice cloud
('m a bit confused now as well actually....)

Same here. I don't care if people get upset with me because I dance like a loon when every one else is trying to look cool or isn't pissed enough.Dubversion said:i totally disagree - i'm a real enthusiast, get childishly excited about things (you should have seen me before the bands came on at Electric Picnic) and spend most of my time enthusing / evangelising etc about things I like and that make me happy.

I second that!Mrs Magpie said:Just watching you dance like a loon fills me with unbridled enthusiasm....You're great, you are!